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2009-06-15 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Netanyahu backs demilitarized Palestinian state
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Posted by Steve White 2009-06-15 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6504 views ]  Top

#1 Talk about a savvy political move. He says yes, but in terms the Paleos will NEVER, EVER accept. Now they will start looking like the bad guy. He can even look like he is cutting things away at negotiations, and the Paleos will still say no. He can walk away and say, "Meh, at least I tried in good faith."
Posted by DarthVader 2009-06-15 00:05||   2009-06-15 00:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Oi vey. Still, I suppose there are advantages to avoiding an an open breach with United States of Harvard as long as possible.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-06-15 03:50||   2009-06-15 03:50|| Front Page Top

#3 I agree with DV: This is a masterful piece of speechifying. Netanyahu obviously learned a few tricks from Teh One's speeches.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2009-06-15 07:57||]">[]  2009-06-15 07:57|| Front Page Top

#4 I dunno, a demilitarized Palestinian state is cool, but it's akin to dehydrated water, it's a bit hard to get, and when you do, you realize it's just not the same thing.
Posted by anonymous5089 2009-06-15 09:39||   2009-06-15 09:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Barry's werds right back at him.

Let us begin peace negotiations immediately, without preconditions," he said.
Posted by Besoeker 2009-06-15 09:42||   2009-06-15 09:42|| Front Page Top

#6 He turns the Paleo's total intransigence against them. Brilliant.
Posted by mojo 2009-06-15 10:51||   2009-06-15 10:51|| Front Page Top

#7 SW - A pal state, subject to the cavearts in the speech is a long standing Israeli positions. It is a NOT long standing Bibi position. Basically (Jerusalem aside) Bibi has adopted the position of Kadima and its last three leaders (Sharon, Olmert, and Livni). It is also the position of Ehud Barak, Bibi's coalition partner. It has never been Likud policy (if, unlike US leftists, you don't count Sharon as Likud after he founded Kadima)

This is a big change, in that sense. And a wise and pragmatic one. Whether Bibi in his heart of hearts really wants a Pal state, or is hoping the Pals will refuse a compromise, this lays out the isues more clearly. This is not about settlements, land hunger, or water rights, since under the peace that would follow Bibis plan, Israel would lose access to land and resources in the WB. It is about the security of Israel "proper". Period. End of story. That changes the debate in the West, and is a wise chess move in response to Obamas speech, which purports to acknowledge Israels security concerns. This speech divides those less sympathetic to Israel, and perhaps more importantly, reunites Israels supporters, and its own citizens.
Posted by liberal hawk 2009-06-15 11:21||   2009-06-15 11:21|| Front Page Top

#8 ISRAELI MIL FORUM > [heavy machine gun] DISPUTE HALTS APC TRANSFER FROM JORDAN TO PA. Installation of same on approxi 50 Russ-supplied, Jordanian BTR-70 APC's.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-06-15 22:04||   2009-06-15 22:04|| Front Page Top

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