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2009-04-05 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Finally, harsh realism from Israel
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Posted by ryuge 2009-04-05 05:52|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Israel appears to be in good hands. Tell Hillary to f*ck off when the George Mitchell set arrive
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-04-05 09:38||   2009-04-05 09:38|| Front Page Top

#2 "...And return to a policy of deterrence."

This is a problem. Deterrence solves nothing because it is a foolish effort to maintain the status quo with a fanatical enemy. Instead what is needed is to create a state of progressive imbalance on the side of the enemy.

That is, they must lose territory for every belligerent act.

This eliminates the need for diplomacy entirely, because it is based on actions, not promises, threats, complaints, third parties, or other such nonsense.

A simple equation:

Stop attacking Israel, or Israel will take Palestinian lands permanently. If the attacks stop, so do the takings. Any takings are non-refundable.

This simplifies the issue tremendously.

The Gaza Strip is 139 square miles. Every time a rocket or mortar is fired at Israel, they lose 1 square mile. If Israel cannot abide just taking the land, then they should put a fair payment in a trust fund, that the Palestinian owner can personally recover from a bank in Egypt.

After 139 attacks, there will be no Gaza Strip, and all the former residents of Gaza will live in Egypt. Or else they can stop themselves, and each other, from attacking Israel.

Their choice. And determined by their actions, not their forked tongues or Europeans.
Posted by Anonymoose 2009-04-05 11:52||   2009-04-05 11:52|| Front Page Top

#3 I have been saying for more years than I can remember that Isreal should tell everyone who feels they are better suited to establish Isreal's foreign policy to f**k off. Maybe now Isreal will FINALLY do it; and we can have some semblance of order in the Middle East.
Posted by WolfDog 2009-04-05 12:21||   2009-04-05 12:21|| Front Page Top

#4 Irony is the Israeli Foreign Minister quoting the Roman Vegetius: "Si vis pacem, para bellum"
("If you want peace, prepare for war!"), considering that the Romans' suppression of the Jewish uprising and destruction of the Temple in 70 AD led inexorably to where Israel finds itself today.
Posted by William Marcy Tweed 2009-04-05 12:40||   2009-04-05 12:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Dear 'moose, Israel should use that fund to purchase 139 sq miles of Western Egypt and transplant the Gazans from 1 sq mi. after each attack.
Posted by AlanC 2009-04-05 14:25||   2009-04-05 14:25|| Front Page Top

#6 How about the Israelis give the goddamned Gaza back to the Egyptians, who used to own it? Drop that mess right back in Cairo's lap.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2009-04-05 15:58||   2009-04-05 15:58|| Front Page Top

#7 As I understand it, Shieldwolf, they keep trying - Egypt won't take it. :-(

(Which proves the Egyptians ain't as stupid as your thought....)
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-04-05 16:56||   2009-04-05 16:56|| Front Page Top

#8 My idea was that if the Paleos are kicked out of Gaza and sent to Egypt, then Gaza should be repopulated with Israeli Arabs, with the Israeli army guarding the Egyptian border, natch.

Since the Israeli Arabs prefer living under Israeli law, and would be getting something out of the deal, they would make a lot better next door neighbors.
Posted by Anonymoose 2009-04-05 18:07||   2009-04-05 18:07|| Front Page Top

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