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2009-03-29 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Bobby 2009-03-29 07:19|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 I Googled the authors, that was quite enough. "Americans" who hate America, how have they been hatched?

Posted by Besoeker 2009-03-29 08:31|| 2009-03-29 08:31|| Front Page Top

#2 It foiled many plots during the Algerian war in the sixties.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2009-03-29 08:31|| 2009-03-29 08:31|| Front Page Top

#3 There are so many layers of disinformation on this subject that it's hard to know where to start. However, it's pretty obvious that waterboarding is just an "easy to visualize" red herring. Heck, it was a technique used during the Philippine Insurrection.

Likely what we do today is just give them a shot--and no--not sodium pentothal, which was used during WWII, but psychoactive substances far more advanced than that. Afterward, then we give them a shot of Rohypnol, and they don't remember the interrogation at all. They just wake up in the morning after a good night's sleep.

Heck, some of the ordinary "twilight anesthetics" that are used in routine surgery today get people so talkative that operating room staff have to sign confidentiality agreements not to gossip about what patients say.

Yeah, waterboarding. Uh-huh.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-03-29 09:49|| 2009-03-29 09:49|| Front Page Top

#4 give them a shot of Rohypnol? lol yeah they sllep good and wake up with a sore ass

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-03-29 10:18|| 2009-03-29 10:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Waterboarding Never Foiled a Plot

...As far as you know. These people never seem to remember the First Rule Of Intelligence Reporting: you always hear about the failures, but you NEVER hear about the successes. I.E.; The WaPo is saying waterboarding never worked because they can find no documented instances that it did.

Mike

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2009-03-29 10:26|| 2009-03-29 10:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Yet another article amongst WaPos rich history of unsourced The dog didnt bark stories. Bravo!

Posted by DepotGuy 2009-03-29 12:45|| 2009-03-29 12:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Zubayda gave up KSM as code-name "Muktar". From KSM we learned a great deal.

This story isn't "news"... it sounds like intentional disinformation.

Posted by eLarson 2009-03-29 14:36|| 2009-03-29 14:36|| Front Page Top

#8 "sounds like intentional disinformation"

That's our MSM!

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-03-29 15:16|| 2009-03-29 15:16|| Front Page Top

#9 I've never been on that side of the business, but I know that very rarely is there one point source that leads to success. Most of the time, you have to collate information from a dozen different sources, separate the truth from the half-truths and outright lies, and slowly build a consensus of what's really going on. There are probably tidbits extracted from Abu Zubaida that helped firm up - or eliminate - other points. WAPO doesn't have a clue how intel works. Also, waterboarding isn't used to extract information. It's used to break the will of the person from withholding information. Information is extracted using other techniques.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2009-03-29 17:02|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2009-03-29 17:02|| Front Page Top

#10 One of the creepiest comments came after the start of the WoT. A CIA agent mentioned an overseas facility that had been nicknamed "The Hotel California", because of the twisted parallels that existed between it and its operations, and the Eagles song of the same name.

Even he remarked that it totally changed the complexion of that song for him, giving the lyrics horrifying double entendres.

It does, too, depending on your imagination.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-03-29 17:53|| 2009-03-29 17:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Quite correct OP. Acting upon "single source" intelligence is generally viewed as a disaster waiting to happen.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-03-29 19:15|| 2009-03-29 19:15|| Front Page Top

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