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2009-01-11 Europe

German "Police" join Jew-hating Muslim mob

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Posted by tipper 2009-01-11 12:46|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 I'm not sure that directing the anger at the policemen is the moral of this nightmare. They seem just two small players in a bigger drama who perhaps rightly, perhaps wrongly decided to remove the flag. It seems to me that scape-goating them allows the real problem (the one that is far bigger than two cops making a decision in the heat of battle) to be brushed aside while we all argue over what the cops should or should not have done.

Posted by Glolusing Barnsmell3409 2009-01-11 13:08|| 2009-01-11 13:08|| Front Page Top

#2 They didn't "join" jew-hating muslim mob, they did what european powers-that-be (and the Us too, in some large extent) do, they APPEASED. It's unfortunate perceptions seem trapped for worse in a fantasied replay of WWII, with its victimization and its ogres... and it's even quite ironical in a very definite sense, as that fantasy worldview which was partly (not completely, gentiles did that a LOT, too, in many regards, "anti-fascism" as defined by the marxists is the official dogma of the Western Enlightened Elites) by portions of the jewish talking class intended on securing themselves a secure positioning in the guilt/victimhood race... BUT, this was turned upon its head by the memetic jujutsu of the cultural left (and also, ironically, by the remnants of the actual nazi propaganda apparatus that set itself in the service of the arabs after WWII)... and now, perception is : JUICES = NAZIS, PALEOS = WWII JEWS.
And you've got pretty funny after-effects, like that victimhood race, with blacks (by that, I mean the black talking class) in western countries being jealous of the jews, because they expect to reap more victimhood benefits from their supposed "victim" status, and assert jews 'stole' their thunder and are getting an underserved share of the White Guilt booty... and now, even "western" muslims are playing that card, see, they're more "discriminated" than the jooooooos, so whitey has to bend over for them even more...

Last time, about the Copenhague schools, I believed there was a lot of fantasies flying around, with the idea that europeans are all closet neo-nazis all waiting for a Furher so they can indulge again in their natural fascistical impulses and start chasing jews again (this is a common thread of thoughts at NP!, for example), IE, Europe is a continent of antisemites by birth, perpetual nazis, etc, etc... I find those american conservative fantasies rather interesting, but I'd just like to point out that the utmost majority of "european" antisemitism is due to our guests, and that the point of convergence with them actually includes the ANTI-EUROPEAN trends of the political/intellectual landscapes, a very diverse set of people whose common links are antisemitism and a reject of classical liberalism (free market & capitalism, freedom of thought, freedom of association, individual-based society, and let's be honest, Christianity); that's why you'll see the far-left and the far-right converge (at least on the idea of common ennemies for the wingnuts, who hates more the jooooooooos and the americano-zionists than the muslim colonizers they so lament) with the muzzies.

BUT, the common european man on the street has nothing to do with that; problem of Europe is that it has been neutered by decades of endoctrination (just as the USA are, I like to think to a lesser extent, be honest about it, you're sick too), NOT that it is a 1930's rethread.

Posted by anonymous5089 2009-01-11 13:47|| 2009-01-11 13:47|| Front Page Top

#3 anon: it doesn't look like a 1930's retread only if you forget that the communists and nazis were originally allies.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-01-11 14:18|| 2009-01-11 14:18|| Front Page Top

#4 What I mean is that 2008 Europe, politically, demographically, and socially (and even humanly) is not the 1930's Europe. It's a spent force, mostly, with the "dangerous" elements being imported foreign populations, aided and abeitted by the dominating ideology of civilizational suicide. Commies and nazis actually still are here, but they're only very marginal auxiliary forces to this dynamic.
Don't forget who set the dance : the leftists may be thinking they are "using" mass immigration to get rid of the old order, and they're doing everything in their power to use that, but when push comes to shove, and when the leftist students have their ritualized fun by demonstrating against their daddies and mommies about school reforms and such, they get beat up and humiliated by the Youths who now have their own ritualized fun of turning every demonstration and public event into a "let's bash whitey's face in" festivity.

So, yes, commies and nazis were allied, but this was then, today, european political violence and extremism is just a sideshow to the actual action; real european problem is impotence.

Posted by anonymous5089 2009-01-11 14:33|| 2009-01-11 14:33|| Front Page Top

#5 I think what you may be reaching for, anonymous5089, is the concept of nihilism, invented in Europe and a leading cause, along with Romanticism of manly warfare, of precipitating the first world war. The thing is, back in the day nihilism was in it's own way muscular and even positive in its destructiveness, looking to clear the many layers of historical underbrush so that an unencumbered modernity could emerge. Nowadays that nihilism, that clearing away, leads merely to the peace of the grave; there is no vision of anything new to replace the old.

Am I close? ;-)

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-01-11 14:50|| 2009-01-11 14:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Kevin knows what Nihilists are - he's a Lebowski Dude

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-01-11 14:58|| 2009-01-11 14:58|| Front Page Top

#7 the concept of nihilism

"Nihilists! *Bleep* me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."
-- Walter Sobchak, "The Big Lebowski"

Posted by SteveS 2009-01-11 14:59|| 2009-01-11 14:59|| Front Page Top

#8 heh....one step ahead of the dread AOS

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-01-11 15:00|| 2009-01-11 15:00|| Front Page Top

#9 Rather than nihilism in its "ideological" form, I'd rather blame cultural pessimism as *engineered* by the gramscists of all stripes, coupled with the after-effects of long term soviet strategic disinformation & demoralization, and a spiritual void stemming from a kind of secularism enforced by a nexus of ideologies that can all be traced to the Enlightement.
This void is filled by a post-Christian messianism which is itself a secular religion, where the crucified Christ is the idealized non-european Noble Savage.

Rather than suicide or decay, I'd rather say western civilization has been killed on purpose, by people working for the Greater Good, to implement their utopia. Doesn't matter that their utopia is ultimately an impossiblity that is a failure, there is no centralized Grand Conspiracy, just automatons doing the part for which they've been programmed, and they come in all shapes and churches, but they do tend toward the same ultimate goal.

Really, it's the ultimate "grey goo" End of the World, except the nano-bots work on society and minds, rather than matter.

Posted by anonymous5089 2009-01-11 15:09|| 2009-01-11 15:09|| Front Page Top

#10 love your comments 5089. We are sick too. Our current congress is corrupt and seem to feel no need to actually represent the people. I'm not sure when it happened, but it seems we woke up one morning and realized that we no longer matter in the political process. Not only do we not matter, there seems little we can do about it. They will be coming for our guns very soon and then the transition from citizen to peasant will be complete.

So even though much of America is still sane, as are many French, British or Europeans, there is little that we can do but sit back and watch the madness unfold and wonder what went wrong.

Posted by Glolusing Barnsmell3409 2009-01-11 18:01|| 2009-01-11 18:01|| Front Page Top

#11 That's an unfortunate event but has of course nothing to do with police "joining the mob".

It's a de-escalation move which may be questionable, but in Germany the police was within its legal rights. They decided that removing the flags was better than putting the people in the house in danger.

It is sad to see this, but it is within the law and has nothing to do with Israel and antisemitism.

Rather it sheds a grim light on the demonstrators (mostly Turks from the militant Milli Gorus). The demonstration at that point should have been dissolved but removal of the flag seemed to be the easier action.

I should mention that Munich had two demonstrations this weekend.

On Saturday the Gazalovers turned to the street, shouting things I'm not repeating here but were truly reprehensive. The large majority were Palestinians, mostly with hidden faces, and militant commies (also mostly with hidden faces).

There was another demonstration today at the central square of Munich. This one I took part in. It went very respectfully, without any insults and absolutely no violence.

I guess you know who those demonstrators were.

Posted by European Conservative 2009-01-11 18:24|| 2009-01-11 18:24|| Front Page Top

#12 It is sad to see this, but it is within the law and has nothing to do with Israel and antisemitism.

I wonder whether the German police would have torn down a flag that deeply offended a right wing party. Or one that called for forceably reducing the earth's human population in honor of Gaia.

Somehow I think not. And therefore this IS about antisemitism and Israel, not as the sole cause but as the weakest point in European integrity.

Posted by lotp 2009-01-11 18:59|| 2009-01-11 18:59|| Front Page Top

#13 Or to be less charitable, it is about the cowardice of the authorities and their willingness to let Jews in Germany be the victims of mob violence.

Posted by lotp 2009-01-11 19:24|| 2009-01-11 19:24|| Front Page Top

#14 No, since this would happen in a non political context as well.

Let's say a large soccer mob is provoked by a flag (of an opposing group) hanging from a window police might opt for de-escalation as well and tear it down instead of risking violence.

I'd rather think they would be more cautious about an Israeli flag so I suppose the situation was dicey

Posted by European Conservative 2009-01-11 19:32|| 2009-01-11 19:32|| Front Page Top

#15 A basic rule of behavior:

What gets rewarded gets repeated.

Mob violence, hate speech and threats by Muslims are being rewarded daily in Europe now. When Muslim immigrants and their children establish police 'no go' areas in Britain, in the banlieus of Paris, in Malmo and elsewhere, the authorities respond by ....

not going there.

When Muslims in Britain threaten and attack Jews, the authorities respond by ...

telling the Jews to keep a lower profile or just move away.

When rapes increase by over 400% in Sweden within a decade and it turns out that nearly all that increase consists of Muslim immigrant/offspring rapes of ethnically Swedish women, the authorities respond by ...

withholding the detailed statistics and threatening journalists who attempt to print them.

When German tourists travel to Muslim areas in Africa and elsewhere and are kidnapped, German authorities respond by ...

paying millions of Euros in ransom.

I fear it won't be long before you all are openly paying a dhimmi tax to the barbarians whom you're embracing. At this rate it won't even be a demand of the Muslims -- the European authorities will eagerly suggest it.

Posted by lotp 2009-01-11 21:00|| 2009-01-11 21:00|| Front Page Top

#16 What do you think the billions going to Egypt and Pakistan is?

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-01-11 22:14|| 2009-01-11 22:14|| Front Page Top

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