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2009-01-02 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel destroys Hamas homes, flattens Gaza mosque
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Posted by ed 2009-01-02 06:08|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 Knowing the problem is half the solution. The reason Hamas began sending rockets is due to the prison their people have been forced to live in. It is true that Israel does not occupy Gaza, but they have encased Gaza into an area where they do not allow food or supplies to enter to these desperate people. A Prison. Israel controls the air above, the sea and the land surrounding this poor strip of land. They have been cut of from the rest of the world and basic human supplies. The tunnels are their only source to the outside world. If Israel would open up the gates, and treat these people like people, there would be no need for tunnels or aggression. These are desperate people, with no hope, a very dangerous combination! Recently, Condoleezza Rice announced the US is allowing Gaza students to enter the US to continue education. Israel forbade them to leave! Israel is the aggressor for suppressing human beings! There will never be peace in the region until Israel respects basic humanity. The world needs to wake up!
Posted by Speaper the Wicked9220 2009-01-02 08:59||   2009-01-02 08:59|| Front Page Top

#2 There will never be peace until someone is defeated. That's the way war works. This one will go on for a long time because the Paleos don't know how to defeat the Israelis and the Israelis don't have the will to do what needs doing. So it will go on. They deserve each other.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-01-02 09:03||   2009-01-02 09:03|| Front Page Top

#3 So Speaper what variety of troll are you? Saudi, Iranian, Syrian, lefty-loon?

The Paleos live as they do because that is there choice. Let's have a little thought experiment, hmmm?

If the Paleos had not fired one rocket or attacked one Israeli or destroyed one green-house after the horrid Juice left Gaza, what would Gaza be like today? The followers of this dark age death cult (aka muzzies) get the results of their choices. TS
Posted by AlanC 2009-01-02 09:27||   2009-01-02 09:27|| Front Page Top

#4 The Paleos chose not to live like people. Therefore, they will be slaughtered like animals.
Posted by DarthVader 2009-01-02 09:34||   2009-01-02 09:34|| Front Page Top

#5 I've never heard of a prison before where the inmates are able to fire missiles at their 'guards' for weeks on end before getting their just deserts.
Posted by Bulldog 2009-01-02 09:36||   2009-01-02 09:36|| Front Page Top

#6 What the world calls terrorists, in this case, could just as easily be called freedom fighters. These people have had their land and their homes taken away from them and have been forced into what would be called here in the US a reservation. Israelis are living in homes built by Palestinians; they are farming land which was once farmed by Palestinians. When the Palestinians fight back, they are called terrorists to hide what Israel has done to them.

Jews are not the enemy of the Arab nations and their people; the government of Israel is. Hundreds, if not thousands of Jews actually live in peace in Iran, one of the fiercest enemies of Israel. It is the nation of Israel that causes the problems over there. That government should be on the list of terrorist nations. They have committed attrocities against the Palestinians which have gone unpunished, because the world is afraid to condemn their actions. Every time someone does call them on the carpet, they are accused of anti-semitism and the holocaust is brought up.

Israel has even been caught spying on the US, with no action taken against them. It is time they were held accountable for their actions, just as we try to hold the Arab nations accountable for theirs. No diplomatic relations with Iran? Fine... how about severing ties with Israel. Once their support from us dries up, perhaps they might realize they can't get away with their actions... they can't get away with murder.
Posted by David C 2009-01-02 10:14||   2009-01-02 10:14|| Front Page Top

#7 Ten years ago, from CIA list, terrorist organization named KLA (involved in kidnapping and killing non Albanian population on Kosovo) was backed up by US Government and given state. Why double standards, why so many blocked UN resolutions against Israel. How many civilians Israel has to kill prior obvious happen- Palestinian State. Until US unconditionally support Israel PEOPLE will die.
Posted by Jake 2009-01-02 10:16||   2009-01-02 10:16|| Front Page Top

#8 THOU SHALL NOT KILL, PERIOD.

All followers of the three (3) great Abrahamic religions, Judaism,
Christianity and Islam believe in the Ten (10) Commandments. In our humble
opinion, if anyone killed another innocent human being or himself, he is neither
a Jew, nor a Christian, nor a Muslim, because he disobeyed one of the
most important Commandments of Almighty God (Allah): Thou Shall Not Kill.
……..

Given below are some of the verses from the Holy Qur’an in support
thereof, referring to the number of Surah (Chapter) first followed by
the number of Ayah (Verse), later (from an English translation of the
Holy Qur’an by Mr. Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall).

Yet ye (Children of Israel) it is who slay each other and drive out a
party of your people from their homes, supporting one another against
them by sin and transgression, and if they came to you as captives ye
would ransom them, whereas their expulsion was itself unlawful for you.
Believe ye in part of the Scripture and disbelieve ye in part thereof?
(2:85)

Lo! those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah (God Almighty), and
slay the Prophets wrongfully, and slay those of mankind who enjoin
equity: announce them a painful doom. (3:21)
Posted by qazi">qazi  2009-01-02 10:28||   2009-01-02 10:28|| Front Page Top

#9 No, David, they're not freedom fighters, they're terrorists:

1) they seek to murder Israeli civilians. If they wanted to be freedom fighters, they would avoid killing civilians and go after the Israeli army. But they don't seem to do that.

2) they hide behind their own civilians, putting them at risk. If they wanted to be freedom fighters, they would avoid risking their own people.

3) they use indiscriminate weapons of terror. If they wanted to be freedom fighters, they would put away the Qassam rockets and use more precise weapons in their fight against the Israelis.
Posted by Steve White 2009-01-02 10:29||   2009-01-02 10:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Speaper earns an appropriate moniker. My hat tip again to the naming algorithm.

Gaza does not need to be a prison. When Israel withdrew it gave the Gazans every chance to live peacefully with them. Remember the incident with the greenhouses? That was repeated throughout Gaza. And almost right away the Gazans began going after the Israelis. That's the reason for the wall. And then the Gazans began to light off rockets.

Ever wonder why the Egyptians keep the Rafah border crossing under such tight control? Why would the Gazans brother Arabs not allow free crossing? Yup, there'd be no need for tunnels if they could get along with the Egyptians, but they can't.

The tunnels, by the way, are used to smuggle ammo, guns, rockets, and cigarettes into Gaza, well before smuggling food. And given the stocks in the grocery stores (re the pic with that British ninny who came in by boat from Cyprus), the Gazans seem to be well fed.

And if I were Secretary of State, I wouldn't allow any Gazans into the US for any reason.
Posted by Steve White 2009-01-02 10:34||   2009-01-02 10:34|| Front Page Top

#11 So Qazi, what do we do with all the Muslims in Gaza who are out killing people?

How about the Hamas and Fatah hard boys who went after each other?

How about the Hamas rocketeers who kill innocent civilians?

Let me know what your holy book says about that.
Posted by Steve White 2009-01-02 10:36||   2009-01-02 10:36|| Front Page Top

#12 THOU SHALL NOT KILL, PERIOD.

I believe it translates 'Thou shall not commit murder.' Eskimo have hundreds of words for snow, in all its variations; Mid-easterners seem to have as many for killing, in all its variations - I can't imagine why.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2009-01-02 10:38||   2009-01-02 10:38|| Front Page Top

#13 Jake apparently can't make us his mind as to what he wants, except that whatever the US is for, he's against.

The KLA, odious as they were, didn't light off rockets into Serbia. And while they were insurgents, they (generally) didn't go after obvious civilians. Not that I'd want the KLA in my country either.

All the nonsense in Gaza could end tomorrow if Hamas and the Gazans simply agreed to respect the border, work with the Egyptians, and not attack Israel in any way. The world community would flood the strip with aid, the Israelis would hold their fire, and the Egyptians would be persuaded to open the border.

What David C willfully misses is this: Hamas is dedicated to destroying Israel. It's in their charter. You could look it up. And they continue, at every opportunity possible, to lash out against the Israelis.

If you go to the zoo, hop the barrier fence, pick up a stick, and repeatedly jab a tiger, don't be surprised when the tiger mauls you.
Posted by Steve White 2009-01-02 10:42||   2009-01-02 10:42|| Front Page Top

#14 David, first of all these people did not have their lands and homes taken from them. They voluntarily, of their own free will, left their homes in advance of the Arab attack on Israel back when Israel was first formed. They left in order to be able to return and participate in the rape of Israel.

And its funny that, before the creation of Israel there were no Palestinian people - they did not exist. The people there were Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, etc...

It is not their fight against Israel which makes them terrorists - its their methods of deliberately targeting and murdering civilians - the more and younger the better. Didn't Hamas celebrate when a 8 month pregnant woman and her 4 (under 12) daughters were murdered in cold blood?

Israel does not target Civilians. They target Hamas terrorists who both hide behind civilians and in dense civilian populations as well as place their ammo dumps and bunkers in Hospitals, Mosques, and Schools. Any civilian casualties are the fault of Hamas - not Israel.

Israel does its utmost to _not_ hit civilians - up to and including calling the residents of the target building and advising them to evacuate.

The 'peaceful' Jew (and Christians) who live in Iran live in a Dhimmi culture (look it up) as third class 'citizens' under their Muslim masters. Try building a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia or Iran. Talk to the Coptic Christians of Egypt. Churches are being openly burned to the ground in Indonesia and the government does nothing. Christian children there are murdered for the crime of being christian and their murders get a slap on the wrist while christian parents face a death sentence for the high crime of inviting their kids muslim friends to an easter party.
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-01-02 10:43||   2009-01-02 10:43|| Front Page Top

#15 Pssst... Mucky! She's back! Easy on deh drag... shshshshssssss
Posted by .5MT 2009-01-02 10:54|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2009-01-02 10:54|| Front Page Top

#16 When the Palestinians love their kids more than hate Jews they will begin to look for peace.
Posted by Formerly Dan 2009-01-02 10:58||   2009-01-02 10:58|| Front Page Top

#17 Wish the lefty crazies would go elsewhere since most of the R-Burgers are former intell people who know more accurately what the score is versus the Muslim World League-ers and Cynthia McKinney-ites.
Posted by hammerhead 2009-01-02 11:08||   2009-01-02 11:08|| Front Page Top

#18 Thats great and all until one looks at reality and sees with open eyes:
1)There are people who don't believe in the passages and go out of their way to kill
2)There are people like me who will kill those people to protect my family; I go to hell so my family lives and goes to heaven.

How many plowshare can one make out of a single kassam unguided saturn missile? The Egyptians 1000's of years ago were able to do more civic projects with less technology. Fact is Gazans have had enough generations grow up with hate that it has turned into a pasttime, much like tailgating before the game has here, except in this case the superfans like to drive bulldozers over others based solely on ignorant bigotry.

And you would be hard pressed to convince me otherwise with this concept of Arab Street, where everyone makes a point to know eveyone else's business (makes the Gauls look like introverts IMHO), that nobody knew that their neighbors were conducting operations against Israeli civilian targets with random killing weapons.

If they spent 1/4 of their energy spent hating on tending their own garden theirs would be a paradise on earth as much as any other culture in history which has made the desert bloom. Instead they take the easier self-satisfying low road of attempting superficial short term gains solely by violence.
Posted by swksvolFF 2009-01-02 11:23||   2009-01-02 11:23|| Front Page Top

#19 Wicked: "they have encased Gaza into an area where they do not allow food or supplies to enter to these desperate people"

If you actually believe that, you're beyond stupid. If not, then you're just a plain old evil anti-semite.

No one stops food or non-military supplies. In fact, the Philistines are GIVEN all the food, fuel, and water they can use. The only thing the Philistines give in return is violence and hate. But I suspect you already know this. By the way, what's your position on the right of return for Jews to Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc? You realize most inhabitants of Israel have been dispossessed by Arabs, right???
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-01-02 11:30||   2009-01-02 11:30|| Front Page Top

#20 Isn't it comical how these shitbirds always declare that they love the Israeli people and the American people, it's just their governments they despise. Buy a f**kin' clue moron. And, just why is Rice promoting the entry of this scum into our country ? Have you seen the demonstrations by these foreign invaders in Dearborn, Ft. Lauderdale, LA ? Why is it not legal to go remove these fifth column terrorists from our midst ? And, you may only guess how I might suggest doing it. It is sacrilege to allow this scum to dirty the streets of this country when our citizens have been sacrificed trying to control this scum. We have many who won't return, and many who have whose lives are permanently altered. And, to allow this on our streets ? This just about drives me buggy.
Posted by Woozle Elmeter 2700 2009-01-02 11:59||   2009-01-02 11:59|| Front Page Top

#21 Woozle:
An analyst on TV was discussing the very real problem with Hamas and Hezbollah members living here in the US. The Palestinians have used charities as fronts to fund terrorism and buy and smuggle those 20' missiles capable of reaching Dimona. And why State encourages more to come here when we have a massive Homeland Security problem with so many potential sleepers living next door to us is beyond me!?! We won't even let our National Guard protect us from foreign and domestic enemies freely crossing the border, let alone target them as Israel is doing. The Palestinians are indefensible, the Israelis have the right to defend themselves, and the US should be following their lead.
Posted by Danielle 2009-01-02 14:05||   2009-01-02 14:05|| Front Page Top

#22 Nuke the strip
Posted by Spereper Dingle6504 2009-01-02 14:06||   2009-01-02 14:06|| Front Page Top

#23 occupation came first and under international law they have a right to resist
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 14:39||   2009-01-02 14:39|| Front Page Top

#24 Occupation's over, loser. Wake the f*ck up, intellectually, and morally
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 14:42||   2009-01-02 14:42|| Front Page Top

#25 "Palestinians" are an invention of the Egyptian and Jordanian governments (two more ethnicities made up by the British) so they could wash their hands of governing their own barbarian demographic.

Phakestinians should be be treated with exactly the same charity the Hamas charter extends to the Jews.
Posted by Excalibur 2009-01-02 14:47||   2009-01-02 14:47|| Front Page Top

#26 not sure who should weak up?
Governments comes and go , people stay.
Tell me how many Israeli Palestinians killed and how many children Israel killed. “baby killers”
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 15:06||   2009-01-02 15:06|| Front Page Top

#27 :-) a chew toy. An ignorant one.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 15:11||   2009-01-02 15:11|| Front Page Top

#28 ethnicities made up by the British

I sometimes wonder what the world would look like today without the overprint of European colonialism. 'We' (er, 'they'?) blame so many of the problems of our time - Rwanda, Rhodesia, Pakistan, Palestine, Vietnam ... the list goes on - on 'colonial legacy'. Yet, with virtually no exceptions, the best times any of those places ever knew was under colonial rule. Makes one suspect the problems are not from the colonialism, but from its end - that we are now where we would have been in the first place, but delayed by colonial intervention and exacerbated by modern weapons and communication.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2009-01-02 15:14||   2009-01-02 15:14|| Front Page Top

#29 I know there's a lot of Palestinian children killed by Hamas placing military and terrorist installations in dense civilian population centers, schools, mosques, and hospitals - and that is just in the last week or so.

Also a lot of Palistinian children saved by the Israeli process of calling up the residents of a target building to advise them to evacute before hitting it.
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-01-02 15:18||   2009-01-02 15:18|| Front Page Top

#30 Under international law that has to be typed Right to Resist©.
Posted by swksvolFF 2009-01-02 15:55||   2009-01-02 15:55|| Front Page Top

#31 and of course, moral high ground for Turkeydick is when Hamas fires missiles from the grounds of a UN school in Gaza, right?

Gateway has the link and video, so f*ck you, Turkeydick, right in your ear
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 16:08||   2009-01-02 16:08|| Front Page Top

#32 What self-respecting chew toy would stick with "Slotle Turkeyneck9015"?
Posted by Darrell 2009-01-02 16:09||   2009-01-02 16:09|| Front Page Top

#33 hurry Mucky damn it, Frank's working the line but him not subtle
Posted by .5MT 2009-01-02 16:50|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2009-01-02 16:50|| Front Page Top

#34 I spied a Nuke! 4oz. of Borus Vodka, 1/2 Habenero in a shaker with crushed ice. A pinch of salt. Shake and pour into a Martini glass. Add a Cayenne for color.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2009-01-02 17:00||   2009-01-02 17:00|| Front Page Top

#35 you haven't answered the question yet, who came first hamas or occupation?
see i can respond to you with out any profanity
and you haven’t tell us how many Israelis (young and old) hamas and other Palestinians insurgents killed, and how many babes I mean babes(under 1 year old) Israel killed?
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 17:10||   2009-01-02 17:10|| Front Page Top

#36 intent matters. Civilians (real, not made-up Paleo civilians) are not targetted by the eeeevil Joooos. Only Hamas and the other "offshoots" from that inbred family tree targets civilians. That makes them war criminals by international law. There is no occupation, and if teh Paleos could stop their death cult worship, and quit shooting rockets at Joooo civilians, they might enjoy life, but nooooo they locate their weapons among real children (a typical cowardly Islamic tradition, it appears) and revel in the martyrdom of the "babes" when they are counterattacked. You brainwashed fool
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 17:15||   2009-01-02 17:15|| Front Page Top

#37 Israel destroys it and the EU re-builds it with upgraded stainless steel appliances and granite counter tops.
Posted by Poison Reverse 2009-01-02 17:15||   2009-01-02 17:15|| Front Page Top

#38 by the way, every time a "mosque" is blowedup real good, and the secondary explosions from the illegal weapons stored there go off real big? I ululate, and pass out candy to the neighborhood kids

cya!
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 17:17||   2009-01-02 17:17|| Front Page Top

#39 Slotle,

You need to read up on the real intentions of Hamas. The term "occupation" when mentioned by Hamas, is not only talking about the Gaza Strip or West Bank. Hamas defines term "occupation" as ALL of Israel. That means ALL Jews must leave the Middle East. I was just wondering if you were aware of that fact?
Posted by Poison Reverse 2009-01-02 17:21||   2009-01-02 17:21|| Front Page Top

#40 I can tell you are blood thirsty like the ones you are defending and the ones you came from?
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 17:23||   2009-01-02 17:23|| Front Page Top

#41 yes I'm a ware of it, same when Israel say all Palestinian territories it is for Israel and not for anyone else.
that is a tactic both side playing
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 17:27||   2009-01-02 17:27|| Front Page Top

#42 Which came first? Israeli pull-out from Gaza or the kidnapping of Schalit? Who observes the Genevea convention - Israel or Hamas? Who ended the most recent "truce" - Israel or Hamas? Who protects civilians and who hides behind them - Israel or Hamas? Who avoids civilian casualties, and who targets them? Israel or Hamas?

Two can play this game. Answer some questions, you evil anti-semite.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-01-02 17:32||   2009-01-02 17:32|| Front Page Top

#43 The kidnapping of the head of the Palestinian parliament and other 10 K of Palestinians that still in prison came first or those don’t count?
You should be ashamed of your self to bring Geneva Convention,
What truce was it about 23 Palestinians killed during this periods and hundreds die of lack of medical and hunger because on the embargo and border closing
Yes Israel protect there civilian and hid behind the Palestinian during each incursion I wish and can post videos and picture to see the soldier how they hid behind women and children (tha is palestinians women and kids)
When you can’t answer questions call people anti-smite, that is old come up with some thing new genius
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 17:47||   2009-01-02 17:47|| Front Page Top

#44 "yes I'm a ware of it, same when Israel say all Palestinian territories it is for Israel and not for anyone else. that is a tactic both side playing"

If Israel wanted all the land, then why are they providing 70% of the electricity to the Gaza Strip?

If Israel wanted all the land, then why did Israel give back the Al-Aqsa Mosque back to Jordan after Israel defeated Jordan in the '73 war?

Posted by Poison Reverse 2009-01-02 17:48||   2009-01-02 17:48|| Front Page Top

#45 Not sure about your logic here.
Of course they will provide electricity for 2 reasons
1) International law oblige they occupier to provide all the necessary means to the occupied and you said it 70 % only( that is Israel and it respect to international law)
2) if they let them get there power from some where els then they loose power over that part.
Again you are not connecting the dots or you don’t want to.
Why give it to Jordan, Israel is occupying Palestine and not Jordon. (if it is Jordanian can any Jordanian drive to pray in the mosque?

Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 18:06||   2009-01-02 18:06|| Front Page Top

#46 1. Show me a link of the international law that states, Israel must provide electricity to terrorists that are killing them.

2. Where else will they get power from? If you are thinking Egypt of Lebanon, wrong answer.

3. The Al-Aqsa Mosque is a Sunni Mosque, if you are Sunni, you can worship there, including Jordanians driving in a car.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2009-01-02 18:15||   2009-01-02 18:15|| Front Page Top

#47 No one is starving in Gaza. If you've ever seen video footage it's plain as day most of them are FAT! No one dies from lack of medicine in Gaza, they have modern fully stocked hospitals (that may be running low on supplies now, but that's what happens when you start a war and lose). All prisoners in Israeli jails are held in standard with "International Law" and full access by the Red Cross/Crescent/Thingy. When was the last time Shalit got visit from the Red Cross/Crescent/Thingy?? Who can even say if he's still alive? Why does Hamas store ordnance in Mosques? In private homes? In children's schools? Why do Gazans kill their own children with mis-handled munitions? Why is Hamas obsessed with killing Jews, instead of their many opportunities to build a peaceful society? Try again, anti-semite.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-01-02 18:19||   2009-01-02 18:19|| Front Page Top

#48 Congratulations, Slotle, you are now in the same class as those pioneers of activist media, Goebbels and Streicher.
Follow their path, share their fate. ("Turkey neck" indeed.)
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2009-01-02 18:31||   2009-01-02 18:31|| Front Page Top

#49 I am so looking forward to the next Nuremberg tribunal. We will have to move it to the Astrodome to accommodate all the defendants who will be occupying the Julius Streicher's former chair.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2009-01-02 18:36||   2009-01-02 18:36|| Front Page Top

#50 FYI a bit of enlightement for the pro-terroist jerks here regarding "Thou Shalt Not Kill".

There are 2 words in Hebrew that involve taking a life. One is Harog, the other Tirzach. The latter means murder, the former means kill.

The prohibition in the Decalogue is Lo Tirzach Thou shalt not murder. Unlike Christinity there is no pacifist underpinnnings in Judaism and one must always do the most ethical and as the Book of Ecclesiastes (Koheleth) points out 'To everything there is a season.....a time for war, a time for peace"

So there you have it - you are WRONG and owe apologies.

Are you courageous enough to own up to your error and apologise?
Posted by OldSpook 2009-01-02 18:42||   2009-01-02 18:42|| Front Page Top

#51 No one dies from lack of medicine in Gaza, I;m sure you get all your info from Israeli news and the FOX.
The only prisoner that are been allowed red X and ) are the ones that have some kind of civic crimes(shoplifting,,,,,,) . But the politicians and activist no way.
For the Israeli prisoner Egypt and EU been given access, do you watch real the news ?
For hiding in the mosques, Israel bomb mosques churches restaurants houses……) , So do give me that crap.
Again how many Israeli killed by Palestinians and how many babes killed by Israel
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 18:58||   2009-01-02 18:58|| Front Page Top

#52 Slotle, fewer than you racist bastards kill.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-01-02 19:02||   2009-01-02 19:02|| Front Page Top

#53 that is all you have for answer?
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 19:05||   2009-01-02 19:05|| Front Page Top

#54 Turkey,

Now, you're just recycling your earlier statements that have already been responded to.

Recycle! Recycle!
Posted by Poison Reverse 2009-01-02 19:07||   2009-01-02 19:07|| Front Page Top

#55 Slotle - its more complete than any you have given. I notice all you do is ask.

You will ANSWER. EIther here or to God.

And evil disingenuous assholes like you shoudl fear that day.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-01-02 19:11||   2009-01-02 19:11|| Front Page Top

#56 ANd by7 the way, YOU are tohe one making the extraordianry claims - its up to YOU to post the extraordinary proof.

Otherwise you are just another simpleminded arab, or a propagandist.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-01-02 19:13||   2009-01-02 19:13|| Front Page Top

#57 I'm so tired of people stating that Israel wants to control Gaza like it some sort of truism. It's a product of willful ignorance or intellectual dishonesty. If they wanted it, they wouldn't have tried their level best to give it to Egypt.

The simple fact is, Israels wants it GONE, but NOBODY WANTS IT! Excepting militant Palestinians whom Israel CAN'T give it to.
Posted by Mike N. 2009-01-02 19:17||   2009-01-02 19:17|| Front Page Top

#58 FRANK: I ululate, and pass out candy to the neighborhood kids

u---u---u---ululateu----u-----u----u----u----ululate ululate****ululate****ululate****ululate
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2009-01-02 19:21||   2009-01-02 19:21|| Front Page Top

#59 No one dies from lack of medicine in Gaza, I;m sure you get all your info from Israeli news and the FOX.

Perhaps if the ignorant shits bought their own farking medicine! instead of weapons that have long since proven to
Posted by Mike N. 2009-01-02 19:27||   2009-01-02 19:27|| Front Page Top

#60 Ooops!

NOT LEAD TO STEHOOD!, they wouldn't die from lack of medicine. But NoOoOoO, those fucks kill all the food in the greenhouses instead!

They haven't offered anything to the world since the lateen sail. Since then they've done exactly dick!
Posted by Mike N. 2009-01-02 19:29||   2009-01-02 19:29|| Front Page Top

#61 The unwashed truth is all the answer required to answr lies, note That means you. (Whatever name you use)
Posted by Rednek Jim 2009-01-02 19:31||   2009-01-02 19:31|| Front Page Top

#62 Too much for Israel to handle, that is why they want out of GAZA.
Who ever is insulting is a simpleminded and I'm not going to go down to your level
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 19:32||   2009-01-02 19:32|| Front Page Top

#63 If you realize that Israel doesn't want Gaza, why did you state earlier that they DO?

You're not among your propaganda swallowing friends here, son. In this here castle, you can't have it both ways.
Posted by Mike N. 2009-01-02 19:35||   2009-01-02 19:35|| Front Page Top

#64 open the borders!!!!! and let them buy or die they din't ask for your money did they?
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 19:39||   2009-01-02 19:39|| Front Page Top

#65 They most certainly did ask for my money. And Europes, and Israels and other Arabs nations etc etc. They ask for it every single friggin year.

Next is the 'They didn't ask to be born!' defense?
Posted by Mike N. 2009-01-02 19:42||   2009-01-02 19:42|| Front Page Top

#66 open the borders = let the Paleo poison out and weapons in, idiot. Think nobody here knows what Paleo jibberish is? We understand the situation, and have had better Paleo chew toys than you. You're boring. I'm done with you.

Happy Ground Invasion tomorrow. The day of Hamas illusionary power and rocket-sex is OVAH, bitch!


/washes hands carefully
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 19:46||   2009-01-02 19:46|| Front Page Top

#67 Mike N
I never said they give it a way they want to give it a way the same why the give the mosque
They are out but still control all the borders so the food power and anything that goes in and out is controlled by Israel,
You are they one defending the baby killers so who is her for propaganda?
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 19:48||   2009-01-02 19:48|| Front Page Top

#68 "You are they one defending the baby killers"

You're the only one here defending the paleos, turkeyneck.

Oh, yeah - that's right. Joooooo babies don't count with you, do they?

Go crawl back under your rock with your murderous buddies. And tell your masters handlers to send the "A" team next time. You're pathetic, repetitive, and boring.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-01-02 19:52|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2009-01-02 19:52|| Front Page Top

#69 Certainly they didn’t ask Israel actually Israel owes Palestinians millions of dollars from taxes.
And Americans are paying for Israel weapons including me, and look what they are doing with it killing babies
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 19:53||   2009-01-02 19:53|| Front Page Top

#70 barbara ,you just wok up,
they do count as matter of fact , the PLO condemned it every time, can you tell me when Israeli GOV ever condemned the killing of the Palestinian’s babies?
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 19:59||   2009-01-02 19:59|| Front Page Top

#71 *Yawn*

Fred, what did we do to attract such pathetic trolls? I seem to remember when we had a much higher class of the little loser assholes living in their mom's basement.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-01-02 19:59|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2009-01-02 19:59|| Front Page Top

#72 Does the phrase baby killers not sound a bit like propaganda to you?
Posted by Mike N. 2009-01-02 20:02||   2009-01-02 20:02|| Front Page Top

#73 apparently, the quality-troll bubble is over as well. God forbid they ask for a bailout, since most live/post from Momma's cellar already
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 20:05||   2009-01-02 20:05|| Front Page Top

#74 Slotle, dear, if the PLO condemned attacking children, why are they targeting kindergartens?

Go crawl back under your rock, and don't come out again til you've actually bothered to think matters through.
Posted by mom">mom  2009-01-02 20:12|| idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[idontknowbut.blogspot.com]  2009-01-02 20:12|| Front Page Top

#75 Slotle if you think things are so unjust and you are such a hero, why not pick up a rifle and go fight?

You are a coward, that's why you are here and not there. You will nto even answer questions or provide the proof your claims require.

Completely gutless.

I've killed better men than you.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-01-02 20:17||   2009-01-02 20:17|| Front Page Top

#76 Inform your self, PLO is not armed anymore and doesn't carry any attack on Israel since the Oslo accord
Israel killing people every day, it is a bad addiction!!
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 20:29||   2009-01-02 20:29|| Front Page Top

#77 Turkeyneck, I see you have no rational response to our questions. If you can't engage in civil, well-reasoned, discourse... well, I can promise you'll be out of here soon.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-01-02 20:29||   2009-01-02 20:29|| Front Page Top

#78 Turkey - I still am waiting for the apology by Paleos for all that candy passing around after 911.
They can FOAD...
Posted by 3dc 2009-01-02 20:30||   2009-01-02 20:30|| Front Page Top

#79  I don't fight, I just state the fact and you can either accept it or not. That is your choice
Still haven’t called you any names. Yet,
Posted by Slotle Turkeyneck9015 2009-01-02 20:33||   2009-01-02 20:33|| Front Page Top

#80 "I don't fight" - typical Paleo supporter from afar
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 20:40||   2009-01-02 20:40|| Front Page Top

#81 Like I said, you are a coward - that's not namecalling, its stating a fact, as shown by your lack of courage to even answer questions here or present your case with facts to back it up.

The Iraqi Army back in 91 had lots of men far better than you. They were soldiers. On the wrong side, but soldiers. Those that lived are on the right side now.

You're just a typical "upper class" Arab from all that I can tell. Sputing off ball brave, accusing others of the evils you do (its a psychological malady in the Arab world called "prjection", boy, go look it up). WHen confronted with reality and hard truth, you show your true selves: Gutless, superstitious, massive inferiority complex, and capable only of in hiding behind (or in) your mother' kirt.

Post proof and facts, or leave.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-01-02 20:49||   2009-01-02 20:49|| Front Page Top

#82 Inform yourself. PLO is not armed anymore and doesn't carry any attack on Israel since the Oslo accord

Inform yourself, you ignorant bastard. Fatah are indeed armed. So was al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade.
Posted by Mike N. 2009-01-02 21:07||   2009-01-02 21:07|| Front Page Top

#83 Slothe,

I will not call you names. I will suggest a thought excercise.

Why through classical history do you not see the word palestine nor palestinian?

Why do Egypt and Jordan close the borders and keep them closed?

This next one is really fun. Draw a map of the region. Now since the UN authorized creation of Israel (the modern state, that is) in that region color all of the countries which have attacked Israel.

After said exercise, how many have attacked Israel?

Now repeat, but adjust for attacks outside the creation of modern israel. This requires a view to classical history, How many ancient empires have resolved to destroy Israel?

How do you react or respond to Hamas spending resources on weapons post gaza pull out instead of infrastructure? What are the expenditures in Euro or Dollar of hamas on weapons vs. Infrastructure?

How do you react to egyptian press calling Hamas responsible for the situtation?

And lastly, and most importantly, what are your typical sources of info?

Not a single name calling, and simple thought excersie here. I am interested in your truthful and thoughtful answers.
Posted by bombay">bombay  2009-01-02 21:11||   2009-01-02 21:11|| Front Page Top

#84 "I am interested in your truthful and thoughtful answers."

Hope you're not holding your breath, bombay honey.

Truthful and thoughtful are above this loser's pay grade.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-01-02 21:31|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2009-01-02 21:31|| Front Page Top

#85 Truthful and thoughtful are above this loser's pay grade.
hint: he's Arab?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-02 21:39||   2009-01-02 21:39|| Front Page Top

#86 What the world calls terrorists, in this case, could just as easily be called freedom fighters. These people have had their land and their homes taken away from them and have been forced into what would be called here in the US a reservation.

I live in a majority white town right next to an Indian reservation. Our girl's basketball teams play each other a few times a year. When we both have enough boys in their teens, our high schools play football. Then we all go have dinner at the local eatery.

I'm sorry, what was your ignorant ass talking about again?
Posted by Secret Master 2009-01-02 22:04||   2009-01-02 22:04|| Front Page Top

#87 For hiding in the mosques, Israel bomb mosques churches restaurants houses......)

Israel bombed these Sebarro pizzaria?

f'en worm
Posted by Beavis 2009-01-02 22:48||   2009-01-02 22:48|| Front Page Top

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