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2008-12-14 Iraq
Bush makes surprise farewell visit to Iraq
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Posted by ryuge 2008-12-14 09:25|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 AP BDS on display - But in many ways this was a victory lap without a victory: Nearly 150,000 U.S. troops remain in Iraq fighting a remarkably unpopular war. More than 4,209 members of the U.S. military have been killed in the war, which has cost U.S. taxpayers $576 billion since it began more than five and a half years ago.

Gee, they just can't stop can they. Forty years after V-E day we still had around 250,000 troops in Germany, spending billions every years, and suffering hundreds of deaths [largely due to training and traffic accidents]. And you think the war was 'popular' in early '45 with the casualty lists mounting - you weren't there. People wanted to get it over just as much then as now, but they wanted it to end just like this one - in victory. Then again, you have no history that is more than 6 or 8 years. No thank you AP for working as hard as you could to be the open conduit for unquestioned enemy propaganda. Upset your side lost?
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-12-14 11:02||   2008-12-14 11:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Procopius, it's truly infuriating to be reminded how orwellian the public square has become/remained WRT Bush and many other topics. Here's another whopper:

the public now has largely decided that the U.S. needs to get out of Iraq.

Oh, really? Is that why votes compelling such departure have fared so well in the people's house, where the opposition has reigned for two years? Or why the newly elected and pathetic CinC flip-flopped like the shallow newbie he is on the topic, ending up guess where?

One thing that is right, but isn't stated here. The American public pretty much disgraced itself and undercut the motivation of many by its whining and impatience and general childish behavior on Iraq. Even with the administration's disastrous abandonment of politics and public communication, the national hysteria was inexcusable. It's not really a good idea to see just how long the dedicated and responsible few can carry the pathetic self-indulgent and ignorant many. Such experiments belong in coffe-house or bar b.s. sessions, not reality. Yet that's what we've been doing, and will now perhaps embark on with earnest, if the new crew dares to follow in the sad steps of its recent Dem forbears.
Posted by Verlaine 2008-12-14 12:35||   2008-12-14 12:35|| Front Page Top

#3 the national hysteria was inexcusable

Substitute the national media for the American public, and I'd agree completely, Verlaine. We have no idea what the American public thinks, because the media have made a point of distorting whatever they couldn't bury.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-12-14 15:03||   2008-12-14 15:03|| Front Page Top

#4 The BBC has a big splash about an Iraqi reporter throwing his shoes at Bush.

The grin on the BBC anchor's face had to be seen to be believed. He of course enlightened the viewers about Arab culture and shoes being an insult.
Posted by john frum 2008-12-14 15:42||   2008-12-14 15:42|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Crerese the Great9942 2008-12-14 16:24||   2008-12-14 16:24|| Front Page Top

#6 FREEREPUBLIC > AGILITY IN TRAQ: BUSH DUCKS THROWN SHOES, from TV Correspondent.

Again, despite entrenchments at this time US domination of desired OWG-NWO is NOT assured or absolute, whereas Radical Islam [includ IRAN]is not only NOT defeated but is still capable of victory, and is actually trying to NUCLEARIZE WHILE BREAKING UP PAN-ASIAN ORDER [Nuclear States espec Russia China India, + large areas/parts of Oil-Rich, etc. AFRICA].

BREAKUP OF PAN-ASIAN COLD WAR ORDER > MIDST OF MSM-NET PERCEIVED " US DECLINE" = ESTABLISH PRO-ISLAMIST/MUSLIM-SPECIFIC AUTONOMOUS ANDOR SOVEREIGN ENCLAVES, FOLLOWED BY FORMAL STATES, THEN MERGE OR INTEGRATE LATER INTO THE "OWG CALIPHATE/ISLAMIST-JIHADIST STATE" [Nuclearized].

THROWN SHOES > IMO SYMBOLIZES HOW FAR THE US = US-ALLIED STILL HAVE TO GO ALA WINNING THE HEARTS AND MINDS" OF WORLD MUSLIMS = NON-ISLAM, AND IN SPITE OF ANY EFFECTS OR MILPOL CONSEQUENCES AS PER THE "US-GLOBAL RECESSION/DEPRESSION".
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-14 19:14||   2008-12-14 19:14|| Front Page Top

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