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2008-05-22 Home Front: Culture Wars

Two Propositions in California To Wipe Out A Slew Of Government Abuses

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Posted by Anonymoose 2008-05-22 11:38|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 "As the UC Davis research showed, this is a nonissue"

And since it comes from UC Davis, it's also "Non-Research" in the truest sense of what scientific research is supposed to be.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-05-22 14:17|| 2008-05-22 14:17|| Front Page Top

#2 both Props are badly written, flawed laws, and their ad campaigns are lie-filled panders. That said, it should be very hard for eminent domain to be used for "redevelopment" without strict oversight and a public vote. Too many instances where the politicos are taking homes and businesses to make way for wealthy friends' projects. "Blight" is usually required, and that is hard to define...

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-05-22 14:18|| 2008-05-22 14:18|| Front Page Top

#3 "Voters should reject both of these initiatives."

I generally tend to vote "no" on ALL ballot initiatives. It is the legislature foisting their responsibility onto the people so they don't have to be held responsible for their vote. We are a republic, we should ACT like one.

Posted by crosspatch 2008-05-22 15:40|| 2008-05-22 15:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Actually M.Richard, UCDavis has a very fine School of Veterinary Science.... though I wouldn't believe anything from the school if didn't relate to animal husbandry.

Posted by Ulomoger Gonque6663 2008-05-22 15:48|| 2008-05-22 15:48|| Front Page Top

#5 It prevents "rent control"?

Then it must be doing SOMETHING right.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-05-22 16:05|| 2008-05-22 16:05|| Front Page Top

#6 It is the legislature foisting their responsibility onto the people so they don't have to be held responsible for their vote.

Agreed, crosspatch. But in California the legislature is beholden to developers and other special interests. You can't trust them any further than you can spit. I wouldn't trust the Sacramento Bee either. I don't live in Sacramento and never look at the paper but I would bet good money that a significant portion of their revenue comes from developers advertising massive new housing tracts. The only way we ever get good laws in this state is with ballot propositions like Prop. 98 and then half the time the courts overrule them just like the recent ruling in favor of gay marriage.

I read Prop. 98 and it seemed reasonable to me because I've heard the horror stories about crooked politicians using eminent domain for the benefit of their ~~owners~~ developer buddies. Prop. 99 was a response from developers and all it does is to nullify Prop. 98. That's an old trick that developers like to use and it's surprising how often it works. Big money will flow into this campaign because there is big, big money at stake and the advertising will be deceptive.

Yeah, and there will be a lot of whining about rent control and affordable housing. Sorry, if you can't afford it work harder, get a better job or go somewhere else. But the argument about affordable housing has never been anything but a red herring anyway. They've been building as much as they can as fast as they can for as long as I can remember and that's a long, long time. But you still see average homes priced at half a million bucks. It's all a lie and newspapers like the Sacramento Bee are all too happy to perpetuate it.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2008-05-22 16:27|| 2008-05-22 16:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Sorry UG and to all the UC Davis School of Vet Med students/alumni, didn't mean to disparage the sections of the campuses' curriculum that actually matter (and I've met a couple of their Medical grads who seem to have their heads screwed on straight, too).

Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-05-22 16:53|| 2008-05-22 16:53|| Front Page Top

#8 One of their medical grads is one of my best friends and colleagues.

And I know a half-dozen of their vet school faculty well, since I collaborate with them from time to time.

Just so you know.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2008-05-22 19:29|| 2008-05-22 19:29|| Front Page Top

#9 Teh sad thing is that had the US Surpeme court done the right thing in the Kelo cade, we'd not have to worry about making laws ourselves to counter bad judges and lazy/crooked legislators.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-05-22 22:04|| 2008-05-22 22:04|| Front Page Top

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