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2008-05-22 Home Front: WoT
U.S. deserter faces deportation from Canada
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Posted by gorb 2008-05-22 03:02|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top
 File under: Iraqi Insurgency 

#1 Glass, of Fairmont, Indiana, says he joined the National Guard believing that he would be deployed only if the United States faced occupation.

so dickweed gets to determine the terms of his deployment? What part of his oath did he not listen to?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-05-22 08:00||   2008-05-22 08:00|| Front Page Top

#2 actually, he didn't listen to much of it, did he? I could've phrased that better...
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-05-22 08:01||   2008-05-22 08:01|| Front Page Top

#3 I cannot believe that Canada will not help this poor soul like they did hundreds of others during vietnam. This gentleman exercised his morality in a conscientious objection to an illegal and immoral war. God Bless Canada and DO NOT succumb to the pressures of the U.S!
Posted by Joluse Munster3447 2008-05-22 08:08||   2008-05-22 08:08|| Front Page Top

#4 I didn't know Venezuela is offering refuge for conscientious objectors against this unjust war, venezuela
which has transparent vote counting (unlike our own), highly developed democratic institutions (not tattered ruins like ours), and scrupulously lawful, beneficial leadership, that believes that education, medical care and social justice for the poor are human RIGHTS (unlike our "fuck the poor" leaders who have robbed us all blind).

I hope that the war resisters out there who need a place to go know the truth about Venezuela. It's not all that easy to know the truth, given the relentless lies and slander against Venezuela by the Bush Junta and the corporate news monopolies. And I hope that they are aware of Chavez's offer.
Posted by Joluse Munster3447 2008-05-22 08:13||   2008-05-22 08:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Who says America wants him back? Perhaps threatening to send him to Gitmo will help resolve this matter.
Posted by ed 2008-05-22 08:18||   2008-05-22 08:18|| Front Page Top

#6 You're just the type of person Chavez is looking for, JM. Please consider moving permanently today.
Posted by ed 2008-05-22 08:21||   2008-05-22 08:21|| Front Page Top

#7 A. The "sarge" doesn't seem the like the brightest bulb on the tree.
B. Let these losers stay there, with the provision being, they're shot if the try to come back.
Posted by tu3031 2008-05-22 08:32||   2008-05-22 08:32|| Front Page Top

#8 Just for you, Joluse.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Flights-g316066-Caracas_Central_Venezuela-Cheap_Discount_Airfares.html

I'd act fast before the airfares go up.
Posted by tu3031 2008-05-22 08:38||   2008-05-22 08:38|| Front Page Top

#9 I think JM may have been facetious. Maybe my Snark-o-meter is off, but I thought I could detect a hint of the driest snark.

(And JM forgot "a committment to free speech and free enterprise" in the VZ pitch.)
Posted by Grenter Protector of the Geats4975 2008-05-22 09:16||   2008-05-22 09:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Tough to tell. I always thought Keith Olbermann was a parody, but guess what...
Posted by tu3031 2008-05-22 09:24||   2008-05-22 09:24|| Front Page Top

#11 I really, really hate deserters.

At the gut level, actual reality, desertion has nothing to do with politics, let alone a pathetic rehash of moth-eaten 60s memes. It is running out on your mates, abandonment and betrayal in a deeply personal sense. It is worse than treason because it is so personal.
Deserters are scum. Hang or shoot all of them.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-05-22 10:12||   2008-05-22 10:12|| Front Page Top

#12 I'd go to venezuela, but there are unavoidable issues, for me... apart from State-enforced socialismo, rampant crime and economic meltdown, its leader is a swarthy, overweight man with porcine eyes, always looking like he's sweating profusely, and who makes all kind of weird statements like he doesn't control himself. Kinda like a latin american mussolini, but without the chin.
My standards are very low (sarkozy...), but I expect my Elites to be of at least of average quality, if not better! Thankyouverymuch.
Posted by anonymous5089 2008-05-22 10:46||   2008-05-22 10:46|| Front Page Top

#13 said Key, who served on the front lines in Falluja before he returned to the United States in 2002.

We didn't go into Iraq until 03...


Posted by Beavis 2008-05-22 11:00||   2008-05-22 11:00|| Front Page Top

#14 Joluse Munster3447, there is a difference between a draft dodger and a deserter.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-05-22 11:11||   2008-05-22 11:11|| Front Page Top

#15 A5089, Hugo is an Indian. He, like most Central and South Americans has more Native American blood than European. In Hugo's case, maybe no European blood.
Posted by wxjames 2008-05-22 11:16||   2008-05-22 11:16|| Front Page Top

#16 Hugo is an Indian.

Yup, as I've said before, my impression is that he's playing an ethnonationalim chord in his marxism and populist demagoguery, IE, the "true" (indian) venezuelian "have nots", vs the supposedly european "have"; it seems to be the same with morales, too.
Posted by anonymous5089 2008-05-22 11:24||   2008-05-22 11:24|| Front Page Top

#17 He can stay in Canukistan for all I care. If they deport him to the US, toss him in the stockade for a few years and then boot him with a dishonorable.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2008-05-22 12:00||   2008-05-22 12:00|| Front Page Top

#18 JM3447, unless you're kidding about Venezuela, you really should talk to some Venezuelan ex-pats. I used to work with one, and he absolutely despises Hugo and all he stands for.
Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California  2008-05-22 12:11||   2008-05-22 12:11|| Front Page Top

#19 You don't just go running off to Canada, there are procedures for this sort of thing. You can press your case and get assigned domestically, or reassigned to a unit that is not combat related, but humanitarian in nature. This guy is just a spoiled little coward that bugged out and ran to canada where he thought he'd thumb his nose at the Army. For making himself a pain in the ass I think they owe him a long vacation, Kansas is nice this time of year.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-05-22 12:11||   2008-05-22 12:11|| Front Page Top

#20 Expect some more of these guys to be coming back to you soon. The Conservative minority government can turf them out and the Liberal opposition won't do anything about it for fear of overturning the government and forcing a federal election that they can't win.

Bye bye, dudes.
Posted by Canuckistan sniper 2008-05-22 12:51||   2008-05-22 12:51|| Front Page Top

#21 "I don't think it's fair that I should be punished for doing what I felt morally obligated to do"

Great big DUH to this pinhead. Moral obligations HAVE A COST! If you are not prepared to pay them then shut the hell up about morals.

Tell that "I dont think its fair" to the bus riders in Selma, tell that to the victims of the USSR who were in the Gulag, tell that to Sait Maximillian Kolbe who died in a Nazi concentration camp... the list goes on and on.

Whinging bastard. Have the courage to stand for your belief, and the courage to face the consequences like a man.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-05-22 13:06||   2008-05-22 13:06|| Front Page Top

#22 He was probably hoping to hang out in Canada until President Obama can pardon him, just like Jimmeh pardoned all the Viet Nam draft dodgers and deserters.
Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California  2008-05-22 14:03||   2008-05-22 14:03|| Front Page Top

#23 Jimmeh pardoned Slick Willie?
Posted by Bobby 2008-05-22 19:57||   2008-05-22 19:57|| Front Page Top

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