Article

2008-04-15 Britain

Alleged terrorist wanted to "teach the West a lesson"

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by tipper 2008-04-15 04:36|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top
File under: al-Qaeda

#1 The problem is---West just refuses to learn (or Islam would've joined the worship of Huitzilopochtli long ago).

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-04-15 08:22|| 2008-04-15 08:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Try it again, Ali. Just to make sure that we really learn your lesson.

Posted by Jack Slineger4174 2008-04-15 09:43|| 2008-04-15 09:43|| Front Page Top

#3 I wonder what the Arab script on that black flag says and why the reporter felt it was unworthy of getting translated. I mean the guy put it prominently in his suicide video and everything.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-04-15 11:15|| 2008-04-15 11:15|| Front Page Top

#4 That's odd, rj, 'cos I don't wonder at all.

Posted by Seafarious 2008-04-15 11:17|| 2008-04-15 11:17|| Front Page Top

#5 Allan's Snackbar, what else ?

Posted by wxjames 2008-04-15 11:46|| 2008-04-15 11:46|| Front Page Top

#6 "Mohamed likes six year olds".

Posted by ed 2008-04-15 11:48|| 2008-04-15 11:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Oh, just a joke I'm sure.
Can Abdullah go now?

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-15 12:40|| 2008-04-15 12:40|| Front Page Top

#8 In the video, Mr Ali, 27, said: Sheikh Osama warned you many times to leave our lands or you will be destroyed and now the time has come for you to be destroyed.

Mr Alis 16-minute tirade was delivered as he sat in front of a black flag, wearing a chequered headscarf and a black shirt. The video was filmed at a flat in Walthamstow, east London, which Mr Ali and his associates allegedly turned into their bomb factory.

On screen he became intensely animated, jabbing his finger at the camera and pausing twice to mop sweat from his face with a towel.

Off screen a voice, which was not identified, was heard asking Mr Ali to explain why he was prepared to take part in the attacks despite the fact that innocent people would die.

Mr Ali responded: "You show more care and concern for animals than you do for the Muslim ummah [the Islamic nation]. Those who know me, who really know me, will know that I was the happiest person that they could ever have imagined and those that know me know that I was over the moon that Allah has given me this opportunity to lead this blessed operation.

Thanks to God I swear by Allah, I have the desire since the age of 15 or 16 to participate in Jihad in the path of Allah. I had the desire since then to punish the kuffar [unbeliever] for the evil they are doing. I had the desire since then for Jannah [paradise] for the Koran. I want to go to my prophet and his companions. Leave us alone. Stop meddling in our affairs and we will leave you alone."

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-15 12:43|| 2008-04-15 12:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Leave us alone. Stop meddling in our affairs and we will leave you alone

Works with me!!!

But first...

Stop using the oil WE discovered and exploited (and created an use for in the first place anyway), and resultant oil money and influence to subvert and bully and even sometimes wage war against us;

AND

Stop playing the victim card handed to you by our own guilt-mongering fifth column, to fuel resentment and even hatred among your rubes against us, and tell them that if your societies are dysfunctional and less advanced than others, it is because we wronged you and we must pay for that, forever and for all times;

AND

Stop immigrating in mass to our own homelands, after chazing us from yours (and once here, being culturally assertive and disrespectful - up to and including fostering civil unrest, rampant criminality, anti-white racism, sexual predation, overuse of our collapsing welfare - to the host country, way more like colonizers than migrants).

Once that is done, we may live as equal, and never interract again, except for the necessary economical exchanges (but see first point). As I said, that's what I'd prefer (and with some adjustment, it works for all third world countries, islamic or not).

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-04-15 13:24|| 2008-04-15 13:24|| Front Page Top

#10 I might add

Stop claiming rights over our own achievements (asserting that they were made possible only because we were taught by you, and/or because we plundered you and impoverished you) and saying that you are culturally superior;

AND

Stop asserting that our own homelands are bound to be eventually conquered (for our own good, because your religion/civilization is superior) and added to the already long list of territories you stole from other people and then eventually ruined and made miserable after you pressured the original inhabitants to exhaustion and poverty and drove them into minority status or exctinction, all this said over and over by your Learned Elders big and small, in accordance to islamic prophecies and tradition, and what you see as favorable historical circumstances.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-04-15 13:33|| 2008-04-15 13:33|| Front Page Top

#11 Good rant, anonymous5089!

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-04-15 13:47|| 2008-04-15 13:47|| Front Page Top

#12 Not really a rant, just what I think.

And I could even add too that the population growth of the muslim world (regardless of shrinking birthrate in several countries, I mean generally, as the majority of the coming human global population growth is going to be from muslim and/or african countries) has been made possible solely thanks to the West's scientific advances.
Just for the record, back in the 19th, in french-colonized north africa, good samaritans were very worried that the natives were eventually going to go extinct, as birthrates were low due to the dire living conditions (farming methods were less advanced than what was found in Europe in the dark ages, with bottom productivity and zero structural develoment, islam had brought what were once very rich and fertile areas back in antiquity down to near stone age standards), and mortality rates were high, especially among children.
And now, you've got the algerian authorities saying that algeria was as advanced as France when it was colonized, with a more advanced political tradition, and that all the woes of algeria are due to french imperialism. Nice.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-04-15 14:13|| 2008-04-15 14:13|| Front Page Top

#13 I wonder if he considers Britain part of his "lands"? Because it's not. Maybe he should return to his "land". When he gets out in about 50 years.
Saw the pictures of these mooks. The all look like Richard Reid types. The "I'm to stupid to light a fuckin match" types.

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-15 14:26|| 2008-04-15 14:26|| Front Page Top

#14 Tu - Mohammhead didn't have matches so there isn't any need for the Moose-limbs to have any 'fuckin matches' either :)

And to add to Anymous'es excellent rant....

And stop insisting that we suffer your hatred, your hate speech in your mosque's every friday, your incitement to murder and kill innocents, destroy cultural icons - all in the name of your pathetic 'god' -- all the while you call for the murder of anyone who disagrees with you or your 'god'.

Your insistance that we surrender our freedom of speech simply because your religion, your 'god' is so pathetic that it/he cannot take any competitiion - not even that of a stupid cartoon.

Your lecturing on the immodesty of our women just because you are so sexually immature that an exposed ankle turns you into a raging sex-maniac who can't stop himself from raping whatever woman (or boy) the hapless ankle belongs too. You may choose to treat your women like cattle (or even worse) but we choose not to. Stop insisting that we do.

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-04-15 14:49|| 2008-04-15 14:49|| Front Page Top

#15 terrorist wanted to "teach the West a lesson"

I wanna teach him Smith & Wesson. The quick way.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-04-15 20:14|| 2008-04-15 20:14|| Front Page Top

23:56 JosephMendiola
23:54 twobyfour
23:53 Slappy
23:51 JosephMendiola
23:49 Slappy
23:48 twobyfour
23:45 twobyfour
23:16 Barbara Skolaut
23:09 Barbara Skolaut
22:49 Redneck Jim
22:43 Redneck Jim
22:37 JohnQC
22:34 JohnQC
22:27 JohnQC
22:26 JohnQC
22:22 JohnQC
22:20 JohnQC
22:19 DMFD
22:14 gorb
22:13 DMFD
22:11 trailing wife
22:10 gorb
22:07 rjschwarz
21:50 Steve White