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2008-02-19 Britain

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Posted by Anonymoose 2008-02-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 Super. More cultural ammo for the mullahs.

Posted by Seafarious 2008-02-19 00:33|| 2008-02-19 00:33|| Front Page Top

#2 the English are sold into slavery by their "upper class". I thought it started with the fabians , but it seems to be much deeper.

Posted by Cleck tse Tung8925 2008-02-19 07:37|| 2008-02-19 07:37|| Front Page Top

#3 ...and John "Lackland" is traditionally regarded in a negative light, the usurper of Richard Lionheart and employer of the Sheriff of Nottingham. Funny.

Posted by imoyaro 2008-02-19 08:09|| 2008-02-19 08:09|| Front Page Top

#4 If things go badly whatever passes for history in a Muslim "England" will claim John converted and justify any atrocity on that basis.

First the traitors. Then the enemy.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-02-19 08:57|| 2008-02-19 08:57|| Front Page Top

#5 It may happen yet...

Posted by tu3031 2008-02-19 09:33|| 2008-02-19 09:33|| Front Page Top

#6 "...the caliph sent John's emissaries away, curtly assuring them that he had no intention of allying with someone so lacking in faith that he was intent on becoming an apostate for the sake of political expediency."
I take it then that if Obama wins, his ambassador to Saudi Arabia will be sent home.

Posted by Darrell 2008-02-19 09:42|| 2008-02-19 09:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Richard had rallied the entire nation to the Crusader cause. Say what you like about his not being around in his own country but evidence shows Richard was popular and thus the Crusades were also popular.

There is no way John could look at that and think shifting over to the enemy would end up with any result other than his death in an unpleasant manner. This is total nonsense.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-02-19 11:27|| 2008-02-19 11:27|| Front Page Top

#8 This is agitprop.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-19 11:31|| 2008-02-19 11:31|| Front Page Top

#9 A more likely explanation is Mathew Paris was doing so psy-ops on behalf of the Vatican. A threat so to speak that even if John and his followers didn't fear the afterlife the Vatican could work to have them torn apart by mobs.

By using Islam they also prevented the rioters from turning on the jews (which they did all too often back then) and thus preserved the peace while making their threat.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-02-19 11:31|| 2008-02-19 11:31|| Front Page Top

#10 This is agitprop.

This is in line with the EU-proposed rewriting of schoolbooks to imply Europe has a "cultural debt" toward the arabo-muslim world, and owes everything to it, or the "Europe's roots as are muslim as they are Christian" of yacoub ibn shirak.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-02-19 12:00|| 2008-02-19 12:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Horse-shit.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2008-02-19 13:01|| 2008-02-19 13:01|| Front Page Top

#12 Bat puckey.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-02-19 18:17|| 2008-02-19 18:17|| Front Page Top

#13 Highly unlikely.

Posted by DMFD 2008-02-19 18:36|| 2008-02-19 18:36|| Front Page Top

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