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2008-02-10 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israeli child seriously wounded in rocket attack
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Posted by Fred 2008-02-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top
 File under: Hamas 

#1 It sure would be tempting to refubish those very same rockets and send them back to about from whence they came. It might give folks around the world a bit of food for thought. But that can't happen.
Posted by gorb 2008-02-10 04:37||   2008-02-10 04:37|| Front Page Top

#2 well looks like it id ass kickin time
Posted by  sinse 2008-02-10 07:33||   2008-02-10 07:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Israel has been waiting for one of these crude rockets to finally cause a human injury. In November Israel tried to drum-up sympathy in the press when some Israeli cows suffered SHOCK from Kassam Rockets...

here

Anyways, it is always unfortunate when someone is affected by Israeli aggression. Had Israel honored the UN resolutions that it is and has been in violation of for many years, this boy perhaps would not have been injured... Unfortunatly Violence is answered with violence... Why does CNN not cover the near daily deaths of Palistinian Children at the hands of the IDF???

Below is a link to a more "Balanced" perspective on why Palistine resists Israel's BRUTAL occupation

here

I fixed the link formats this time - next time I'll just delete the comment if the links aren't correctly formatted. Lots of places on line to learn how to do that or you can use the buttons that Fred provices.
Posted by marc 2008-02-10 18:24||   2008-02-10 18:24|| Front Page Top

#4 marc - you'll find more sympathetic company in the sinktrap. Douche
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-02-10 18:58||   2008-02-10 18:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Yeah, marc, if you'd learn how to post links that'd be nice too. Frickin' moron.
Posted by Abu Uluque6305 2008-02-10 19:09||   2008-02-10 19:09|| Front Page Top

#6 The day it becomes Jewish religious doctrine to genocide muslims and temples and TV is filled with screams for the blood of muslim kiddies, THEN I may feel a tiny bit of sympathy for muslims. Until then, SUCK IT UP, BITCH.
Posted by ed 2008-02-10 19:23||   2008-02-10 19:23|| Front Page Top

#7 marc dear, if you must display your ignorance to those who've spent years studying the subject, please at least bury your links so as not to break the formatting for everyone else. The site owner gives both buttons to click and HTML code to copy - right below the box where you typed your text - so it isn't as though near-genius intelligence is required.

Oh, and you might want to consider, if the Israelis are so brutal, why did Hamas force all the Gazans to return to their homes, instead of encouraging the women, children and old people to scatter to safety into Egypt when they took down the wall on that border? After all, hundreds of thousands of Gazan Palestinians ran across, and spent -- according to the Egyptian press -- something like US$220 millon in forged currency, to purchase mainly motor scooters, televisions, and potato crisps (chips for the Americans). Then too, there's this link. Go ahead and click on those last words, and read it. We'll wait until you get back, my dear, because we've already read that one, and many others. Taqqiyah is a Muslim concept originally articulated by Mohammed in the Koran; you may want to read a translation. We have. Oh, and then there is Hamas's declaration of principles (killing all the Jews is one of the first items), the Palestinian Liberation Organization's founding document (killing all the Jews is one of the first items), and the Palestinian Authority's founding document (killing all the Jews... but you know the rest by now). This compares to the Israeli declaration of independence, which makes Arabs, Christians and Muslims equal citizens in the country, a country where Arab Israelis elect their own representatives to the Israeli Parliament, just as the rest of the Israelis do.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 19:27||   2008-02-10 19:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Dear, Trailing wife... I am sure you are not one that has spend years studying the issue, other than HTML links of course, for which I apologize as it obviously makes me moronic in this forum.

But anyways, your Hasbara leaves something to be desired... Unlike you... I will counter one of your arguments w/o resorting to peripheral bashing of your HTML skills...

YOU WROTE "This compares to the Israeli declaration of independence, which makes Arabs, Christians and Muslims equal citizens in the country, a country where Arab Israelis elect their own representatives to the Israeli Parliament, just as the rest of the Israelis do."

Did you research this, or did you just think it sounded good??? Consider the JNF refusing to sell or lease land to Arabs/Christians??? Sounds less than "equal" to me

Also if you need to know just which UN resolutions that Israel is in violation of, I can also source those for you. You seemed not to comment on those... Remember how important UN resolutions are... Oh yeah... Iraq...

Thanks for listening, get back to me after you watch the Zionist terrorists in Hebron in the second link I provided in my original post, I would love to here what you thought, or at least how bad my HTML skills are :)
Posted by marc 2008-02-10 20:04||   2008-02-10 20:04|| Front Page Top

#9 "hear", not "here", Mr. ESL. Your Paleo-propaganda drivel has been proven wrong by 6+ years of Paleo crimes against humanities, tool, documented ON THIS SITE. Use the search function, if you dare. Til then, I'd suggest you contribute a leg for the Israeli youth in Sderot, who lost his due to a civilian-aimed rocket by the Paleos. What's that? A war crime? No no no...just a response to the continued Zionist occupation of Gaza...er.... nevermind

"Marc", you are a tool and ass, but then, you already have a mirror, and knew that
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-02-10 20:12||   2008-02-10 20:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Did I research for that last post, marc? No, my dear, I'm just fonder of original documents than you, I guess, including the various UN resolutions about Israel -- you've actually read the one establishing the State of Israel in 1948 in its entirety, or the 1967 one? It really is important to actually know what you're talking about when you try to argue with those who do. And apparently I'm less fond of propaganda flicks... or perhaps just more aware of the difference between propaganda and honest reporting. One of the many things I've looked into while following my husband's career around the world and back. For myself, I prefer not to make the PhD mistake of knowing more and more about less and less until one knows everything about nothing at all. A little academic joke I used to hear a lot in the ivory tower of my childhood.

Have you seen the one about that poor little Palestinian boy that the Israelis killed in front of his father a few years ago? The one that French television gave away free, along with his story? (The first and only time that's happened; the French can be terribly mercenary when there's money involved, or at least that's been Mr. Wife's experience. Technically very good, though. ) I've seen the original photo series of that, where he walks away after, past the other Palestinians working with the photographer to stage the money shot. It's in French court still, I think -- the director is fighting a rearguard action to keep the entirety of the original footage from the public. I'll let you google that yourself on the web, because finding things in Rantburg archive can be a bit challenging.

Oh, and do consider the Palestinians torturing to death anyone who sells property to a Jew... and that the Palestinian territories are Judenrein, and coming Christianrein. The Jewish National Fund, on the other hand, buys property to make into forests and parks, which they hold as a national trust. Have you checked to see whether they sell to Jewish Israelis, before throwing around accusations of religious discrimination?

And my dear, you simply must tell me where you came across the term hasbarah. So revealing as you used it, don't you think? But don't capitalize it, because it is a general noun rather than a name, and doing so reveals something I'm sure you'd rather not at this point.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 21:02||   2008-02-10 21:02|| Front Page Top

#11 Yee-ouch, tw.

That's gonna leave a mark. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2008-02-10 21:11|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2008-02-10 21:11|| Front Page Top

#12 One continues to hope they're capable of learning, Barbara. Some have, after all, and even gone on to become valued Rantburg contributors. Too, teaching is a family tradition and a personal interest, you know, even if like so many of my interests I've never done it professionally.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 21:21||   2008-02-10 21:21|| Front Page Top

#13 Besides, with me marc has a chance. I'm trying to protect him from the ire of the real professors and professionals of every stripe who hang out here, and who so hate shoddy thinking. That could have real-world repercussions for the poor lad.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 21:32||   2008-02-10 21:32|| Front Page Top

#14 tw, I love your gentleness, patience and logic as you thread trolls idiots ill-informed visitors onto that barbeque spit, turn up the heat and apply the sauce.

If I ever When I grow up, I wanna be just like you. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2008-02-10 21:48|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2008-02-10 21:48|| Front Page Top

#15 You are such a silly, Barbara dear, which is one of the reasons I adore you.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 21:59||   2008-02-10 21:59|| Front Page Top

#16 Yes Indeed, thanks to TW... I have seen the error of my ways. I will go away now... People like me are simply confused... In the case with the the photo series that you mention, there is a LOT of post rational that has gone on since that set captured world attention... At any rate I will bid you all farewell...
Posted by marc 2008-02-10 22:11||   2008-02-10 22:11|| Front Page Top

#17 *points at marc and laughs ass off*

Ya got smoked, dude! You/re not the first one to get fooled by the "trailing wife" moniker, and will not be the last. We measure IQs around here by how fast one catches on to that...

I should point out that we don't have to convince you that we are right: we just have to convince everyone else visiting this site that you're a bigoted idiot.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2008-02-10 22:15|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2008-02-10 22:15|| Front Page Top

#18 Ah, our posts seemed to have crossed.

Oh well, and a thin-ego-ed coward as well.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2008-02-10 22:18|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2008-02-10 22:18|| Front Page Top

#19 I'd much rather you started reading original documents, marc. What isn't needed is people who agree with me, but those who come to reasoned conclusions based on real-world evidence. I mean, if you can't persuade a little suburban housewife in the wilds of the American Midwest that you know what you're talking about, how do you expect to be able to persuade real experts?
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 22:19||   2008-02-10 22:19|| Front Page Top

#20 And tw turns up the flame and slathers on more sauce....

/barbeque commentary :-D
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2008-02-10 22:21|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2008-02-10 22:21|| Front Page Top

#21 ONE MORE TW... Case in point and thanks... I'll let you google where this one comes from... ciao :) I think in the course of 3 posts you showed each of the 7 at least once...

Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message. To effectively present Israel to the public, and to counter anti-Israel messages, it is necessary to understand propaganda devices.

NAME CALLING
GLITTERING GENERALITY
TRANSFER
TESTIMONIAL
PLAIN FOLKS
FEAR
BANDWAGON
Posted by marc 2008-02-10 22:25||   2008-02-10 22:25|| Front Page Top

#22 "NAME CALLING
GLITTERING GENERALITY
TRANSFER
TESTIMONIAL
PLAIN FOLKS
FEAR
BANDWAGON"

Dang, marc, you just described both the leading DemoncRat contestants candidates.... ;-p

(Though "Glittering Generality" really homes in on Obama)
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2008-02-10 22:29|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2008-02-10 22:29|| Front Page Top

#23 Hey Barb - I have to agree on that on...
Posted by marc 2008-02-10 22:30||   2008-02-10 22:30|| Front Page Top

#24 As for Ptah, you flatter me inordinately, my dear, but we certainly do not.

Does anyone know what post rational means in the sense marc used? I'm struggling to diagram that sentence.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 22:34||   2008-02-10 22:34|| Front Page Top

#25 at first i thought marc was joking and got tired of reading his post. someone inform me later if he choked on his hotdog tonight
Posted by  sinse 2008-02-10 22:38||   2008-02-10 22:38|| Front Page Top

#26 wow, marc, you dropped the soap, big guy, ROFLOL
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-02-10 22:40||   2008-02-10 22:40|| Front Page Top

#27 OK marc, I'll weigh in here.

Question, just how many rockets has Israel fired into Gaza?

Any answer?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-02-10 22:41||   2008-02-10 22:41|| Front Page Top

#28 Point to them, my dear marc, and we can discuss it. Listing in all caps does not persuade.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 22:45||   2008-02-10 22:45|| Front Page Top

#29 1. NAME CALLING TW "so it isn't as though near-genius intelligence is required." When referring to me..

2.GLITTERING GENERALITY TW" Oh, and do consider the Palestinians torturing to death anyone who sells property to a Jew" Can you confirm this is an absolute???

3.TRANSFER TW "you've actually read the one establishing the State of Israel in 1948 in its entirety, or the 1967 one?" So it Ok that Israel is in violation if Palistine did it first...

4. TESTIMONIAL TW "One of the many things I've looked into while following my husband's career around the world and back." Are you using your husband as a basis for what you know??? Does he legitimize what you say???

5.PLAIN FOLKS TW "if you can't persuade a little suburban housewife in the wilds of the American Midwest that you know what you're talking about, how do you expect to be able to persuade real experts?" this one is pretty clear.

6.FEAR TW "I'm trying to protect him from the ire of the real professors and professionals of every stripe who hang out here, and who so hate shoddy thinking. That could have real-world repercussions for the poor lad." hmmmm

7. BANDWAGON - This would apply to the notion that TW is the work horse on this blog tonight and the rest are certainly on her bandwagon for the ride ;) Does not leave much of a chance for stimulating debate when I have to dodge the nasty names. Not much learning happening here is there???
Posted by marc 2008-02-10 23:07||   2008-02-10 23:07|| Front Page Top

#30 Anyways... I guess the point is if your minds are already made up than this in not really a place to exchange info or ideas. Imagine if people could have an open mind??? We might live in a better place... I really do apologise for wandering into your forum tonight... I guess I know how it would feel to be gay and wander into a redneck bar ... ha ha

Everyone takes the limits of his own vision for the limits of the world.
-philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer
Posted by marc 2008-02-10 23:25||   2008-02-10 23:25|| Front Page Top

#31 Thank you, marc. In order, then.

1) I was referring to my intelligence, since the general IQ tests I've taken do not put me at near-genius. I've no idea where you score, although an expert would no doubt find indications in our posts.
2) I'm not sure what you mean by "an absolute" here, but I read the news reports at the time. My usual sources are the Jerusalem Post, the Star of Lebanon, the Arab News (Saudi Arabia), that kind of thing. I used to read the International Herald Tribune, but have lost interest since it became a next-day digest of the New York Times. Unlike Mr. Wife, I never learnt Arabic.
3) Israel is not actually in violation of any of the UN Security Council resolutions. I assume you haven't read them, since you think otherwise. Am I wrong?
4) No. That's background for the fact that I have time to read up on things that interest me, and the opportunity to meet a larger variety of people than one is customarily exposed to in Midwestern suburbs...or the university community in which I grew up.
5) Clear? I am a housewife in the suburban Midwest, I am almost 5 ft. (152 cm, in case you prefer that scale) tall, and I am not an expert, merely somewhat well read. You did not persuade me.
6) Shoddy thinking always has real-world repercussions, unless one is professionally artistic, and where money is involved even then. Do you dispute this?
7) I never claimed to speak for the Rantburg generality. Since you aren't answering any of the others -- agreed the name calling doesn't call for one -- what difference does their opinion make to either one of us?

If you wish to answer here, you'll need to post before midnight, as Fred has set his site to start fresh then. But of course you can always send me an email.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2008-02-10 23:34||   2008-02-10 23:34|| Front Page Top

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