Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Thu 01/31/2008 View Wed 01/30/2008 View Tue 01/29/2008 View Mon 01/28/2008 View Sun 01/27/2008 View Sat 01/26/2008 View Fri 01/25/2008
1
2008-01-31 Terror Networks
Sociologists: Studying engineering turns you into a terrorist
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by tipper 2008-01-31 02:25|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ]  Top

#1 Repeat until the light turns on...correlation does not equal causation...correlation does not equal causation...correlation does not equal causation...
Posted by gromky 2008-01-31 03:10||   2008-01-31 03:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Yes, repeat after me, Islam has nothing to do with it.
Posted by Gladys 2008-01-31 05:49||   2008-01-31 05:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Really? It has ever been the wackos in pseudo-scuences like... socilogy who have ver been the most prone to support terrorism.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2008-01-31 05:50||   2008-01-31 05:50|| Front Page Top

#4 So did their sample group include the zillions of dead foot soldiers, or just the more interesting terrorists that captured their eye?

I'd say there's a higher correlation with madrassas than anything else.
Posted by gorb 2008-01-31 05:55||   2008-01-31 05:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Education + Islam = terrorist.

They cannot cope with the cognitive dissonance. Engineers have a low tolerance for cognitive dissonance (hence they don't tend to vote left). However if your whole life is dedicated to sacrificing yourself for allah yet your education helps you discover that the koran is a load of cr4p, then some will decide to remove the real world to preserve their faith. i.e attack the west.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-01-31 06:52||   2008-01-31 06:52|| Front Page Top

#6 These reports make me seethe! I'm gonna whack some sociologists today!
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-01-31 07:25||   2008-01-31 07:25|| Front Page Top

#7 Frank! Don't we need some sort of a group, with a manifesto, or something? Where do I sign up? Do I have to get off the couch for my training?
Posted by Bobby 2008-01-31 07:31||   2008-01-31 07:31|| Front Page Top

#8 JFM, the difference is between being a cheerleader and a player. Both are from the same team, just different functions. The dilettante wanabe intellectuals cheerleaders wouldn't last a single engagement on real field of play, but like to be close enough to savor the fight and smell the unattainable testosterone that envelopes the proceedings.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-01-31 08:05||   2008-01-31 08:05|| Front Page Top

#9 I just keep thinking "Wally", from Dilbert.
Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-31 08:38||   2008-01-31 08:38|| Front Page Top

#10 Apparently studying sociology turns you into a pathetic excuse for a statistician.
Posted by Darrell 2008-01-31 08:59||   2008-01-31 08:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Apparently studying sociology turns your mind into a gooy mush and a leach on society.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2008-01-31 09:14||   2008-01-31 09:14|| Front Page Top

#12 These are just guys who went into engineering for the wrong reasons. Probably pushed into it by their folks. Happens in the US too, but here you have the choice to transfer into law or real estate. For the jihadi, it's engineering or being the busboy at the family coffee shop.
Posted by Penguin 2008-01-31 09:16||   2008-01-31 09:16|| Front Page Top

#13 Pebbles. I'm surrounded by engineers -- and they're all lefties. Actually, the more impressive they are in their careers, the more left they are. I'm one of 3 conservatives out of dozens -- and I'm the design guy!
Posted by Captain Lewis 2008-01-31 09:23||   2008-01-31 09:23|| Front Page Top

#14 I find most engineers are rather focused on their field but usually clueless in other areas, making them seem inflexible or even indoctrinated when conceptualizing the arts or spirituality. Jihadis are clearly anal retentive. I bet their mommies didn't let them fingerpaint and make a mess when they were little. The sociologist are probably left standing in the outfield, too.
Posted by Danielle 2008-01-31 10:10||   2008-01-31 10:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Or maybe engineering or medical school is easier for them to get visas for so the can come West.
Posted by Danielle 2008-01-31 10:13||   2008-01-31 10:13|| Front Page Top

#16 Apparently, studying sociology turns you into a moron.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2008-01-31 10:35||   2008-01-31 10:35|| Front Page Top

#17 "We find that graduates from subjects such as science, engineering, and medicine are strongly overrepresented among Islamist movements in the Muslim world"
Right... Ya think they might just be commited to learning better ways to kill us....?
Posted by Icerigger 2008-01-31 11:04|| coonlakebeach.com]">[coonlakebeach.com]  2008-01-31 11:04|| Front Page Top

#18 Written in their office on computers built by architects and engineers.
Hey sociologists, what say you: would you rather build the bombs or detonate them?
Posted by swksvolFF 2008-01-31 11:15||   2008-01-31 11:15|| Front Page Top

#19 Commodore Frank, yer the leader. Us engin-ears will follow you to any venue and seethe, or worse. Just give us the sign. Besides regulatory work is boring.....
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2008-01-31 11:41||   2008-01-31 11:41|| Front Page Top

#20 As an engineer, my "terrorist mindset" tells me to produce more mundane and obscure diagrammatic details to be plotted out on on 'Size-E' drawings in order to decimate our worlds forests without paying for any additional 'carbon credits'.

Long Live the Revolution!
Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-01-31 12:23||   2008-01-31 12:23|| Front Page Top

#21 The most impressive thing about this study is that we have not just one, but two sociologists who actually acquired jobs in their field...
Posted by tu3031 2008-01-31 12:28||   2008-01-31 12:28|| Front Page Top

#22 Pebbles. I'm surrounded by engineers -- and they're all lefties. Actually, the more impressive they are in their careers, the more left they are. I'm one of 3 conservatives out of dozens -- and I'm the design guy!

Are they REALLY lefties? Or are they trying to be popular?
Posted by eLarson 2008-01-31 12:58|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2008-01-31 12:58|| Front Page Top

#23 The problem with Engineering and Islam is that it forces you to confront the inherent contradictions of Islam.

You spend the working day acting like the scientific method is supreme. Then you go home and realize you're going to Hell because you've contradicted some part of the Koran or Haddiths (e.g. the world is round).

Doing this day after day will cause an Muslim to have a nervous breakdown or become a fanatic as a way of atonement.

I have noted giving a Muslim a technical education causes Muslims a great deal of angst. This is probably why they have such a hard time coping with any post-Medieval technology.

Al
Posted by Frozen Al 2008-01-31 13:06||   2008-01-31 13:06|| Front Page Top

#24 Motive, opportunity, means. The highly educated muslim is more visible to Americans because he has the money and opprotunity to travel to infidel lands. What prevents more jihad attacks by muslim among us is the certainty they have no place to run and will be caught. The less educated and poorer muslims have to jihad closer to home where the international press is not interested.
Posted by ed 2008-01-31 13:49||   2008-01-31 13:49|| Front Page Top

#25 I'm joining Frank G and Alaska Paul. I'm already making faces.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2008-01-31 13:59||   2008-01-31 13:59|| Front Page Top

#26 There is a cultural bias. You don't generally find mideastern islamists in fields such as psychology or sociology, i.e. the soft, mushy sciences. They generally are attracted to the harder applied sciences such as engineering.
Posted by JohnQC 2008-01-31 14:40||   2008-01-31 14:40|| Front Page Top

#27 Oh no! I've turned into a terrorist.

What would sociologists do without engineers?

Nothing, absolutely nothing.
Posted by Glolurong Jones1696">Glolurong Jones1696  2008-01-31 14:47||   2008-01-31 14:47|| Front Page Top

#28 See WND > G2 BULLETIN - Britain is taking the lead in Europe in the search of NUCMATS missing from poorly secured RUSSIAN/FORMER RUSSIAN STOCKPILES, Facilities, etc. Also see FREEREPUBLIC on the recent Kazakh intercept of radioactive mats believed intended for IRAN as caught along the Uzbek-Kaz border.

IMO, a dedicated PRO-RADIC ISLAMISM, US/WEST-TRAINED EDUC "ENIGINEER", ETC. OPERATIVE COULD'VE AND WOULD'VE HAD NUKED THE TWIN TOWERS IFF NOT NYC + WASHINGTON DC [targets] ON 9-11.

It remains my opinion that my Afghan War comrade Osama andor aligned Radical Islamist groups CHOSE TO CONDUCT INTERACTIVE POLITIX ON 9-11, NOT DE FACTO WAR. IMO, THEN AS NOW, OSAMA etal. DID THIS DELIBER IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE ISLAMIST GLOBAL AGENDA = OWG ISLAMIST-JIHADIST STATE AGENDA vv manipulating the world's "great powers/nations" [predomin JudeoXtian] agz one another as need be. IFF ONE BELIEVES THAT RADICAL ISLAMISM-TERR = ISLAMOFASCISM, THEN BY THIS SCOPE ONE MUST BELIEVE THAT THE ISLAMISTS BELIEVE THAT MUSLIMS MUST PROVE THEIR WORTH BY PHYSICALLY COMMITTING THEIR BODIES MINDS + SOULS FOR GLOBAL ISLAM + JIHAD/ISLAMISM, AS ADOLF HITLER DEMANDED OF GERMANS = GERMANIC ETHNIC GROUPS BEFORE AND DURING WW2.

Iff OSAMA, etal. = HITLER > again, MUSLIMS-ISLAMISTS MUST GIVE ALL, SACRIFICE ALL FOR VICTORY; OR ELSE DIE IN THE FLAMES.

OSAMA BELIEVES THE ISLAMIC = ISLAMIST FINAL APOCALYPSE MUST BE WON OR LOST BY ISLAM IN IRAN/PERSIA. NO US-WESTERN INVASION-OCCUP OF IRAN = NO APOCALYPSE = ISLAMIST WAR AGZ US-WEST GOES ON INDEFINITELY.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-31 18:47||   2008-01-31 18:47|| Front Page Top

#29 OSAMA and aligned have no qualms about waging a "LONG WAR", including but not limited to a "WAR OF [MANY]GENERATIONS".

Can America + USG-NPE as we know it, i.e. as a CONSTITUTIONAL- and REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC/
DEMOCRACY, FEDERALIST, UNION OF SOVEREIGN/AUTONOM
STATES, ETC. - SURVIVE FOR AS LONG???

Lest we fergit, "FASCISM" > PC = PDeniably reborn as LIMITED/DEREGULATED COMMUNISM, LIMITED TOTALITARIANISM, LIMITED GOVTISM-SOCIALISM, etc???
Dare PAULA ABDUL remember "NEW LIBERALISM"?
"COMMUNIST CAPITALISM = COMMPITALISM?
"CAPITALIST/DEMO PROGRESSIVISM"?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-31 18:57||   2008-01-31 18:57|| Front Page Top

#30 I left the software engineering field three years ago. Does that make me a former terrorist?
Posted by Raj 2008-01-31 19:53||   2008-01-31 19:53|| Front Page Top

#31 I thought engineer in Arab meant bomb maker
Posted by Kojo Omeans9930 2008-01-31 23:37||   2008-01-31 23:37|| Front Page Top

23:51 Clem Uning2414
23:42 Alaska Paul
23:37 Kojo Omeans9930
23:34 JosephMendiola
23:33 Alaska Paul
23:32 JosephMendiola
23:31 Alaska Paul
23:29 ex-lib
23:27 JosephMendiola
23:26 JosephMendiola
23:23 JosephMendiola
23:20 JosephMendiola
23:13 ex-lib
23:11 Rambler
23:01 3dc
22:32 Rex Mundi
22:31 WTF
22:25 Fred
22:23 Barbara Skolaut
22:17 Barbara Skolaut
22:15 WTF
22:09 Frank G
22:05 Besoeker
22:04 JosephMendiola









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com