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2008-01-11 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Bush demands end to Israeli 'occupation'

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Posted by Fred 2008-01-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top
File under: Palestinian Authority

#1 This verbiage / syntax of "Occupation" must cease. Arabs Occupy Israeli lands. Israel is a sovereign country. More so to God than even the USA. So when you use the word "occupation" you give the impression that someone other than Israelis have right to Israel, which is not true.

"Palestine" is a roman invention from their conquest of the holy nation. It was a derogative term.

It is important that History and true rights are discussed in any further "negotiation" when we are selling out Gods personal state to miscreants of death and wanton destruction.
It may be one thing that we want to get right from now on.

I just wanted you to be aware of these things.

Thanks.

Posted by newc">newc 2008-01-11 00:16|| 2008-01-11 00:16|| Front Page Top

#2 What complete and utter bullshit!

Israel as practically done nonthing *but* 'make sacrifices to bring about peace' and all it has brought them is more bloodshed and more murder.

The only thing the Palieos have sacrifices are innocent Israeli men, women, children, and even the unborn on the alter of their death 'god'.

They have not kept a single one of their agreement. And their ultimate goal - which they have openly proclaimed again and again and again - is the utter destruction of Israel and the 'human sacrifice' of each and every one of its citizens to their death cult.

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-01-11 00:17|| 2008-01-11 00:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Appears he has accomplished his mission with this drivel, and a sea of Soodi oilfield pump jacks are now smiling broadly?

Posted by Besoeker 2008-01-11 00:37|| 2008-01-11 00:37|| Front Page Top

#4 THe Message that the Palestinians will understand is that terrorism works. The message he should have issued is: "Not a single cent of aid until you honor what you signed for and you dismantle the system who is brainwashing children into future suicide bombers and genociders. And do it fast or we will force you to refund the aid you got since Oslo".

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-01-11 01:54|| 2008-01-11 01:54|| Front Page Top

#5 THe Message that the Palestinians will understand is that terrorism works. The message he should have issued is: "Not a single cent of aid until you honor what you signed for and you dismantle the system who is brainwashing children into future suicide bombers and genociders. And do it fast or we will force you to refund the aid you got since Oslo".

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-01-11 01:55|| 2008-01-11 01:55|| Front Page Top

#6 They are worse than the Mayans, or the Hittites. Sacrificing their kids for a moon god of all things to force God out of his dwelling place? Think about it.

Posted by newc">newc 2008-01-11 02:33|| 2008-01-11 02:33|| Front Page Top

#7 When Israel takes all of Jerusalem, inlcuding the site of the Dome of the Rock, which someday it will, scriptually that is when Armageddan occurs, also known as the end of the age of the Gentile. 200 million (Islamists? there are 1 Billion now) come together to take out Israel.

Posted by www 2008-01-11 03:11|| 2008-01-11 03:11|| Front Page Top

#8 One thing I am quite sure of: Dubya's occupation of the White House will end on January 20, 2009.

Posted by Gromomble Oppressor of the Iowans8916 2008-01-11 03:26|| 2008-01-11 03:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Nuclear Iran is not enough for him?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-01-11 05:13|| 2008-01-11 05:13|| Front Page Top

#10 Mr. President, your endorsement of "democracy" for the Palestinians helped to empower Hamas. Now you are echoing their tropes while we pump money into that kleptocratic terror machine.

Israel has even more to fear from foolish "friends" like you than from its enemies.

Posted by Black Bart Clomock6784 2008-01-11 07:13|| 2008-01-11 07:13|| Front Page Top

#11 Something weird is going on with the W-man. It started before the NIE report, which was weird enough in itself, beyond weird. Maybe it started when Condi was made Sec State?

Posted by moody blues 2008-01-11 07:22|| 2008-01-11 07:22|| Front Page Top

#12 Big rebates to companies that don't need it, no total war on the country that launched 9-11, no war with the sauds that funded it, open borders, exporting American jobs, kissing islamic ass.

His next move will be giving CAIR a cabinet position. I've had it with this puss nuts.

Posted by Icerigger 2008-01-11 08:16|| http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]">[http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm] 2008-01-11 08:16|| Front Page Top

#13 There are times that I really want to smack W up the head and ask him, "What the fucking hell are you DOING?!?!"

Geez... the only thing this is gonna do is embolden the ~~terrorists~~ Palios and get more Israelis killed.

Stupid George, stupid. Fucking Stupid.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-01-11 09:16|| 2008-01-11 09:16|| Front Page Top

#14 The Israelis really need the lesson pounded down their throat that they screwed up royally by not kicking all the Arabs out of their nation when they had the chance. However, the opportunity will again present itself, no doubt, so they should not make the same mistake yet again.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-11 09:17|| 2008-01-11 09:17|| Front Page Top

#15 And this is supposedly a warmongering evangelical President. It is almost possible (almost) to imagine Kerry doing a better job. At least that lying sack of crap would have had to pretend to man it up.

If America and the West cannot side with the only democracy in the middle east, Israel will look to India and elsewhere. At least the Indians have a clear-eyed view of muslims.

And I want to second every letter of what newc wrote. If we refuse to defend the land God promised his people we do not deserve his Providence in the lands we have made for ourselves in the New World. We are breaking the Covenant and we will deserve our fate.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-01-11 09:41|| 2008-01-11 09:41|| Front Page Top

#16 Neighborhood Bully

Bob Dylan

Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man
His enemies say he's on their land
They got him outnumbered about a million to one
He got no place to escape to, no place to run
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully he just lives to survive
He's criticized and condemned for being alive
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land
He's wandered the earth an exiled man
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn
He's always on trial for just being born
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized
Old women condemned him, said he could apologize
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad
The bombs were meant for him. He was supposed to feel bad
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, the chances are against it, and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a licence to kill him is given out to every maniac
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he got no allies to really speak of
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly. To hurt one they would weep
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep
He's the neighborhood bully.

Every empire that's enslaved him is gone
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand
In bed with nobody, under no one's command
He's the neighborhood bully.

Now his holiest books have been trampled upon
No contract that he signed was worth that what it was written on
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health
He's the neighborhood bully.

What's anybody indebted to him for ?
Nothing, they say. He just likes to cause war
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed
He's the neighborhood bully.

What has he done to wear so many scars ?
Does he change the course of rivers ? Does he pollute the moon and stars ?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill
Running out the clock, time standing still
Neighborhood bully.

Posted by Snealet Bonaparte6725 2008-01-11 10:25|| 2008-01-11 10:25|| Front Page Top

#17 Okay, George, you've done the "Peace in the Middle East" thing like all the rest of them do in the last year of their final term. Did it make you feel better?
Why don't you get on the plane and come home now...

Posted by tu3031 2008-01-11 11:24|| 2008-01-11 11:24|| Front Page Top

#18 There just has to be more to this. He can't be this stupid or craven. I'm thinking some sort of qqp for relaxation on Pals position. He just came from Israel, this can't be a blindside for Olmert, and I haven't heard a peep from them.

I hope this is just politics, and not what it looks like.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2008-01-11 11:49|| 2008-01-11 11:49|| Front Page Top

#19 "Now is the time to make difficult choices. The agreement must establish a Palestine as a homeland for the Palestinian people just as Israel is a homeland for the Jewish people." He added: "I am confident that with proper help the state of Palestine will emerge."

slow down their cowboys! You are allowing MSM propagandists to yank your chain. Bush did not "call for the end to the Israeli occupation". Read what is in quotes. I think you will agree with what Bush actually said.

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2008-01-11 12:16|| 2008-01-11 12:16|| Front Page Top

#20 oops. I guess he did say, "There should be an end to the occupation that began in 1967".

My mistake. duh. Nevertheless. I still agree with his overall point. The only way to end it is to give the Paleos their own state. Notice that Bush says, "just as Israel is a homeland for the Jewish people". That's a big sticking point for the Paleos. The Paleos still haven't advanced past wanting the Jews in the sea. Perhaps his use of the word "occupation" was just the spoonful of sugar.

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2008-01-11 12:24|| 2008-01-11 12:24|| Front Page Top

#21 Thanks George. It wasn't enough that you half-assed Iraq, did nothing to the Saudis, did nothing to Iran, and did nothing to the Pakis. You had to out-do yourself and blurt out some of the stupidest drivel since the last time Jimmah opened up on this topic. Exit stage left, please--you've wasted 8 years of the time we COULD have been battling Islam.

Posted by Crusader 2008-01-11 12:52|| 2008-01-11 12:52|| Front Page Top

#22 This move escapes logic.
All I can think is that the bible fortells of a time when all nations are against the Jews and then Armageddan and then the end times will come.
Could it be that God has control of Bush and he makes moves that defy logic to set the stage for God's return ?

Posted by wxjames 2008-01-11 12:58|| 2008-01-11 12:58|| Front Page Top

#23 Israels position cannot be maintained forever. At some point, occupation has to end. Better to do it when they have a better economy and better military than all their neighbors than to wait for them to be forced out of the territories.

Occupation never was a permanent solution. Some might have hoped they could colonize the territories and push the Paleos out, but that was never going to happen in real life. Not with all the Arab nations around to stick their noses in it.

The only way for Israel to address the Palestinian problem once and for all is for the Palestinians to have a state. Once they have a state, the Paleos can either A) Act like normal people - HA!, or B) Act, as a state against Israel, giving Israel cause to wage actual factual war against the Terrorist Entity.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-01-11 13:27|| 2008-01-11 13:27|| Front Page Top

#24 Well said, Mike N.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2008-01-11 13:41|| 2008-01-11 13:41|| Front Page Top

#25 The original borders of Israel and Palestine are one whacked-looking gerrymander. I don't see how THAT would be sustainable at all.

Posted by eLarson 2008-01-11 14:31|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2008-01-11 14:31|| Front Page Top

#26 Concur Mike N, & WG4611 - good catch.

The rest of you drawing parallels between revelations and this situation - thanks for the laugh.

Posted by Broadhead6 2008-01-11 14:37|| 2008-01-11 14:37|| Front Page Top

#27 We will no longer use the term occupation, from now on use the term sweep and clear, sweep and clear, is that understood?

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-01-11 17:17|| 2008-01-11 17:17|| Front Page Top

#28 The original borders were intended to be unsustainable, eLarson.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2008-01-11 17:27|| 2008-01-11 17:27|| Front Page Top

#29 I agree with Mike N

Posted by crosspatch 2008-01-11 21:21|| 2008-01-11 21:21|| Front Page Top

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