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NYC mayor Bloomberg to call for Gov't of National Unity

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-12-30 04:05|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Except these were all the folks in charge when Osama was setting up shop. Your thoughts?

If the run, it would be good for the Republican party and not the Dems - just for the reason you state. They are the tired old guard who have already done enough damage for one century.

That doesn't mean that I don't think they will be a force to be contended with, but Hillary pretty much doomed Bloomberg when she called attention to him during her debate flip-flops.

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2007-12-30 04:40|| 2007-12-30 04:40|| Front Page Top

#2 that list is more of the same old CFR crowd. Always on the hunt to interject itself as the alternative choice, these folks need to stand down, they emerge everywhere under any cloth, but they are all the same.

Posted by Spiny Gl 2511 2007-12-30 04:41|| 2007-12-30 04:41|| Front Page Top

#3 the "We know what's best for you" Party. Bloomberg needs a national humiliation as the head of the worst nanny state. I can't wait....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-12-30 06:23|| 2007-12-30 06:23|| Front Page Top

#4 "As mayor, he has seen far too often how hyperpartisanship in Washington has gotten in the way of making progress on a host of issues," said Bloomberg's press secretary, Stu Loeser."

The name seems to fit...

Posted by Raj 2007-12-30 08:24|| 2007-12-30 08:24|| Front Page Top

#5 Interesting list of retirees Mr. Bloomberg bought.
Pinche's boys at the NYT will get very dizzy spinning this one.

Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-12-30 08:39|| 2007-12-30 08:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Bunch of elitist leftists out of touch with the average person in the US and the world. Go ahead, create a new party with them. It will hurt the dhimocrats as the far left will vote for these losers.

They had their chance, they failed and 3000 Americans died. History will curse their names.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-12-30 08:54|| 2007-12-30 08:54|| Front Page Top

#7 We don't do "national unity". That's for parliamentary systems with an infinite number of single issue parties, jostling for position after the first round of elections resulted in no single party getting enough votes to put together a government by itself.

Our "first past the post" system results in clear winners and losers, and the winners get on with things. If they can persuade enough of the other party on individual bills, then national unity results for long enough to get something done, just as Congress agreed to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq at the time.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-12-30 09:05|| 2007-12-30 09:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Actually, I think this may benefit the Demos. The Dems are not nearly lefty enough for the Kos crowd and other assorted looney tunes. This group of crackpots would provide the correct refuge for this bunch of losers.

Posted by Woozle Elmeter 2907 2007-12-30 09:50|| 2007-12-30 09:50|| Front Page Top

#9 Solid list of RINOs on the Republican side. Useless all of them.

They want to worry abotu gridlock, then point the finger where it belongs: the Dems mistaking several narrow wins in an off season for a mandate to cut-n-run in Iraq, and thier attempts to turn this nation into a socialist nanny-state.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-12-30 10:49|| 2007-12-30 10:49|| Front Page Top

#10 You are right, it will benefit the lefty loons; their voice will be heard. But despite the volume of their megaphone, there aren't enough of them to elect dogcatchers - except maybe in San Francisco and Vermont. Ever look at the numbers on those Iraq war votes or any of the other vitally important loon issues that actually made it to the floor? If you check the votes on those issues, they always got STOMPED. And we're talking stomped. Why? Only the reps in completely safe seats dared to vote against the will of the people and to stand with the frothing hordes.

I hope they run as a third party. They will split away Hillary or Obama's votes and neither one of those two are, IMHO, viable candidates.

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2007-12-30 10:57|| 2007-12-30 10:57|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Andrew MacRae">Andrew MacRae 2007-12-30 11:20|| http://www.uniteformike.com]">[http://www.uniteformike.com] 2007-12-30 11:20|| Front Page Top

#12 We've already got the Greens, so I guess there is room for the Maroons.....

Posted by Uniling Turkeyneck9588 2007-12-30 11:29|| 2007-12-30 11:29|| Front Page Top

#13 "BLOOMBERG 2008: We know what's best for you."
Paid for by Citizens for the Permanent Nanny State.org...

Posted by tu3031 2007-12-30 13:23|| 2007-12-30 13:23|| Front Page Top

#14 He is assuming of course that we want anything other than gridlock in Washington DC.

I have had enough of their bright ideas to last a lifetime.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-12-30 13:27|| 2007-12-30 13:27|| Front Page Top

#15 Empty words, repeated "Buzzwords" parroted Phrases.

"Nothing new here", just another "Jump in front of the cameras" Moment.

Real progress neither desired, nor intended.

"VOTE FOR MMEEEEEE".

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-12-30 13:49|| 2007-12-30 13:49|| Front Page Top

#16 Obama had a very public "private" breakfast meeting with Bloomberg a few weeks ago...

Posted by Seafarious 2007-12-30 14:00|| 2007-12-30 14:00|| Front Page Top

#17 He is assuming of course that we want anything other than gridlock in Washington DC.

Been listening carefully to family and friends who over the holidays. An awful lot of people are just tired of the political venom of the last 7+ years. I detest Bloomberg, but he might well draw a lot of votes with that theme.

Posted by lotp 2007-12-30 14:26|| 2007-12-30 14:26|| Front Page Top

#18 lotp: projection.

I did a small-sample (i.e.: my friends) of their dissatisfaction with Wahington's' inability to ennact much of the Dem's projects and they said: "Yeeeaarrrgghh~!" apparently they agree with gridlock as opposed to RINO's giving tax increases, defense cuts along with Iraq timelines, Dem-friendly judicial appointments, appeasement politics, Diversity© over quality, et al. I think we run in different crowds. Thank God we only get one vote each, eh?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-12-30 14:50|| 2007-12-30 14:50|| Front Page Top

#19 Not projection, Frank. Just one sector of a varied electorate.

As to 'different crowds' - could be. But I haven't any knowledge of who you hang with. The people I was talking with over the last two weeks are pretty much pro-military, pro-US Christians who vote but don't follow the ins and outs of politics or the media in any detail. 'Tired' is a word they all kept using, without any prompting on my part. Which is not to say that they wanted the Dem proposals to go forward -- rather they're fed up with the tenor of the political scene on both ends of the spectrum. And whether accurately or not, they reported similar feelings on the part of their friends and co-workers.

As always, FWIW.

Posted by lotp 2007-12-30 15:44|| 2007-12-30 15:44|| Front Page Top

#20 IIRC, Sam Nunn, Charles Robb, Gary Hart, John Danforth, and Christine Todd Whitman all were found to have dipped their hand in the wrong cookie jar, several of them more than once. None of them are honest enough to be elected dog catcher in Echo, Louisiana (pop 14) - or even Tincup, Colorado (year-round population 0). Add in anyone who has ever worked for Jimmah Cahtuh, and you've got a basketful of snakes in a hog pen - dangerous, but about to be eaten alive. Still, it's always nice for the idiots to self-identify. Saves a lot of time and effort for the rest of us.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-12-30 16:05|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-12-30 16:05|| Front Page Top

#21 and Bloomberg is the attraction for pro-military, pro-U.S. Christians who don't follow politics? I don't see it. Assuming that wasn't a jab that my crowd is anti-military, anti-U.S. satanists, which, except for a one or two, it isn't, I'd say most people have strong convictions, not the mushy "middle" desiring no conflict, and a pony. We live in a polarized society, which is based on..well... most people being polarized, on strong principles. To try and paper that over in the name of being "nice" is like a hudna with the rabid left, and I refuse to participate with them. Let them particpate in the theater of popular opinion, and let the votes lie where they may. I'm comfortable with the (fair...not you, AlGore) American process without these elitist assholes riding to our rescue

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-12-30 16:06|| 2007-12-30 16:06|| Front Page Top

#22 It's not Bloomberg that might attract them - it's the unity theme. 'Tired' is an emotional response, not a policy one.

I respectfully disagree that what is involved is mushiness or being 'nice' vs. having strong opinions. Maybe on the part of the Bloomberg wannabe crowd, but not these people. They work hard, try to raise their kids right, catch maybe a little of the news on TV or on the radio on the way home from work or in the local papers. They don't have TIME to follow the ins and outs of the DC swamp. But they know enough to be heartily sick of the nastiness that has characterized our politics since at least the impeachment of Clinton.

And no, I certainly wasn't jabbing at you Frank. You suggested that we run in different crowds. I don't know if that's true or not (geography aside) so I tried to sketch these particular votes in just a couple words. Peace, please -- I'm not defending Bloomberg or his initiatve. Remember, I live close to where he was in office and have seen him up close.

But I *do* think I understand why some might be attracted to what he apparently plans to announce. Whether they'd be happy with the results if it is successful is a different matter.

Posted by lotp 2007-12-30 16:37|| 2007-12-30 16:37|| Front Page Top

#23 I am sick unto death of these parasites. They have no leadership, no real plan, no clue. Political people nowadays are those that have been caught in the social sinktrap that cannot cut it anywhere else, or they are wealthy and bored. Good people that want to go into public service are repulsed by level of corruption and contempt for the people by those in power. I do not see things changing until the lot of them are literally thrown out or tried and sentenced appropriately as traitors. Change will come first from within oneself, then it will come from the grass roots. The politicians and Washington are symptoms of a greater malaise in spirit of this great country. Waiting for a savior-type leader riding in on a white horse is not gonna happen (Deacon and Ace excepted). Look in the mirror next time when you are in the head and you will see who will get us out of the mess we are in.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-12-30 17:10|| 2007-12-30 17:10|| Front Page Top

#24 Robin, as you mau nkow, I also "visit" other sites - at AceOfSpades the topic is addressed as: "Has-been Politicians Meet To Call Attention To The Need For Bi-Partisanship And Themselves. Well, Mostly Themselves."

I concur, surprised?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-12-30 17:45|| 2007-12-30 17:45|| Front Page Top

#25 Nope, not surprised - nor do I disagree with that assessment. ;-)

Posted by lotp 2007-12-30 17:53|| 2007-12-30 17:53|| Front Page Top

#26 I think many will be attracted to a mushy middle promising peace at the dinner table. But if they run as a third party, they will appeal more to the left than to the right, thus being more likely to split the vote in favor of the Republicans. Add a green party candidate on top of that to boot - and a Republican victory is assured.

What I noticed this year was the absence of discussion from the crowd that considers itself highly informed due to the fact that they listen to NPR once a day and can repeat a few lines at the dinner table that sound informed. Their desire not to spoil the meal with politics reminded me of a superbowl game where the smack-talkers suddenly get quiet when their realize their team isn't going to make it.

Conservatives on the other hand will not vote for Bloomberg after his licenses for immigrants debacle. That is an area where conservatives are all united.

And while the Conservatives are bickering now because [shock] none of the candidates are perfect, they won't be too upset to vote for any of the candidates except loon boy who is IMHO just doing this to scam the matching funds.

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2007-12-30 17:54|| 2007-12-30 17:54|| Front Page Top

#27 I talked to a lot of people down there (15 or 20) friends and kin. If they had to choos only Democrats it would be Edwards. Republicans it would be Fred Thompson or John McCain. In a Democrat vs Republican it would be Fred Thompson. Hope he can get nominated.
One thing that kept comming up for both Democrats and Republicans is they are "Tired" of the Elitism and the "We know what's best for you" current government. These are Southern Democrats for the most part with a sprinkling of Republicans. Hillary will not win the Deep South. They all feel Obama is too young and too inexperienced. Bloomberg is a "Yankee". Edwards is a "Southerner". If it came down to Edards and Thompson Thompson wins in a landslide.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2007-12-30 17:56|| 2007-12-30 17:56|| Front Page Top

#28 PS, I ment in South Alabama. That's where I was the past two days.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2007-12-30 17:59|| 2007-12-30 17:59|| Front Page Top

#29 The problem with the democrats is that they have spent themselves with their hatred of Bush. The true believers won't admit it, but they really don't like Hillary Clinton and think Obama does not have enough experience, as you say. Pelosi and Reed have been an embarrassment to them as well.

I really think that Rudy or Fred will pull many from the left who are just normal folks in the middle. Rudy, by all rights, is really a democrat who is running as a republican. The leftist loons will vote for any Democrat just because they think they should, but most Americans will find Rudy or Fred to be just fine. Rudy and Fred will not only pull the conservative base, but will also pull the democratic middle.

Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2007-12-30 18:13|| 2007-12-30 18:13|| Front Page Top

#30 United Nanny States of America - Catchy, don't you think?

Posted by doc 2007-12-30 18:52|| 2007-12-30 18:52|| Front Page Top

#31 The left's 'unity' ~~pogram~~ program was amply demonstrated when Joe Lieberman sought reelection. Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-12-30 18:57|| 2007-12-30 18:57|| Front Page Top

#32 I vote for Fred Wife - Mz Thompson.

Posted by 3dc 2007-12-30 19:01|| 2007-12-30 19:01|| Front Page Top

#33 Bloomie doesn't need the matching funds as petty cash to his $B's, however if he takes it, it will show the 'depth' of his support, and distane for tax payers in general. 'Political firepower' indeed. Does he have Harold Stassen's advisors yet? Geroldine Ferraro as VP floated by Stu Loeser on Unity08? Excitement builds.

Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-12-30 19:39|| 2007-12-30 19:39|| Front Page Top

#34 GUAM PDN Op-Ed > IF CLINTON AND GUILIANI DON'T DO IT, CAN BLOOMBERG WIN VICTORY?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-12-30 20:40|| 2007-12-30 20:40|| Front Page Top

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