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2007-12-17 Arabia

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Posted by gorb 2007-12-17 04:46|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 You are just now doing this, "King"?

She should have been pardoned the day of charge.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-12-17 09:53|| 2007-12-17 09:53|| Front Page Top

#2 If an American court tried to jail a rape victim (never mind that we don't do lashings here) the governor (or USAG) would be under immediate and unremitting pressure to remove any judges involved it the decision.

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-12-17 10:03|| 2007-12-17 10:03|| Front Page Top

#3 MM: If an American court tried to jail a rape victim (never mind that we don't do lashings here) the governor (or USAG) would be under immediate and unremitting pressure to remove any judges involved it the decision.

In Saudi Arabia, the pressure is to do the opposite - i.e., not do a pardon. The royals don't generally interfere because they remember what happened to the Shah, who was overthrown by a bunch of angry Muslim literalists on a mission from Khomeini who prided himself on having the only correct interpretation of the Koran. My feeling is that the only way to erase the threat from Saudi Arabia is to cull the ranks of the zealots and the clerics. When the Shah of Iran attempted to do this in Iran via his secret police, the West gave him a hard time, and France gave Khomeini shelter. When the zealots and the clerics attempted to overthrow the Shah, Carter gave them the green light while denying the Shah military supplies to crush his opponents and urging him to leave.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-12-17 10:36|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2007-12-17 10:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Given how many of the Saudi royal family can be counted in the ranks of the zealots (about half, I understand -- the other half being "Westernized" decadents), cleaning up the populace would be a bit difficult, regardless of outside influences.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-12-17 13:10|| 2007-12-17 13:10|| Front Page Top

#5 True - after a while, all those deaths 'while on a camping trip' would begin to look suspicious.

Posted by Pappy 2007-12-17 13:27|| 2007-12-17 13:27|| Front Page Top

#6 TW: Given how many of the Saudi royal family can be counted in the ranks of the zealots (about half, I understand -- the other half being "Westernized" decadents), cleaning up the populace would be a bit difficult, regardless of outside influences.

Not knowing any of the royals, I can't speak to the zealotry or lack thereof within the Saudi leadership. I can say that it would be silly of them to attack Uncle Sam, their principal protector against Iranian or Iraqi territorial expansion. The Saudi government did not need bin Laden to attack us on 9/11 in order to get Uncle Sam to move out of Saudi Arabia. We would have left if they had asked us to leave. We have left the Philippines, the Panama Canal, the Central Pacific territories - the list goes on and on.

My basic point is that in most Muslim countries, the population, not the rulers, are our enemy. There are people who believe that democracy will make everyone our friend. I think that's just wrong. A lot of countries that have become more democratic have also become more hostile to us. Chile. South Korea. The Philippines. Indonesia.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-12-17 14:04|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2007-12-17 14:04|| Front Page Top

#7 It'd be nice to believe that international pressure and the media spotlight had something to do with this so that the MSM is good for something after all.

It would be good to put the spotlight on the religious fanatics every time there is a case like this so they have to explain and justify to the whole wide world the twisted practices of their religion. But I wouldn't want to be the journalist trying to live in that country who held the light on these cockroaches. It might be a health risk.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-12-17 14:07|| 2007-12-17 14:07|| Front Page Top

#8 wow i guess they will raise the price of oil for this one since they had too go aggainst islamic bullshit

Posted by sinse 2007-12-17 16:34|| 2007-12-17 16:34|| Front Page Top

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