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2007-11-29 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

IAF Strike Signals New Tit-for-Tat Policy

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-29 08:43|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Attacks on terrorists in the act of firing at Israeli civilians were called off if they appeared to entail a danger of hurting non-combatants.

A policy the world recognizes as underlining the moral distinction between the IAF and the terrorists (who are another man's freedom fighter).

/wishful thinking

Posted by Excalibur 2007-11-29 09:11|| 2007-11-29 09:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Ive got some TAT if anyone wants to trade?

Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-11-29 09:53|| 2007-11-29 09:53|| Front Page Top

#3 I have a TIT BrerRabbit, but you have to go first.

Posted by smn 2007-11-29 10:35|| 2007-11-29 10:35|| Front Page Top

#4 from now on, the IAF will attack a random Hamas target in Gaza every time a mortar shell or rocket hits an Israeli community, and will no longer limit itself to striking the terrorists who launched the rockets.

That's progress---of a sorts.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-29 10:51|| 2007-11-29 10:51|| Front Page Top

#5 I would take a slightly different approach. If I were the Israelis, I would commence the manufacture of literally millions of small unguided rockets and mortars. When one lobbed at me, I would respond by sending at least 100 times as many rounds of a similar sort right back into the same general area as the one aimed at me was launched. This does several things and is important psychologically ... though the maximum psychological impact only happens over time (say after about the third such attach).

What it eventually does is erodes public support for those who are sending rounds into Israel and will turn the people against those lobbing them. It sort of goes like this:

Some idiot launches a series of mortar rounds or salvo of rockets at Israel. Say 5 rounds.

About 500 rounds return to the same general area (important).

The people that saw the rounds go out experience the rounds coming in. They know exactly why those rounds are coming in. Next time Hamas brings some rockets into someone's garage, word is going to go around to the neighbors. A few rounds go toward Israel, a few HUNDRED rounds come back to the same neighborhood.

Pretty soon the locals are informing Israel on the location of these munitions as soon as they are brought into the neighborhood so they can be destroyed by pinpoint strikes or raids. If Hamas continues firing these weapons from the neighborhoods, the people take matters into their own hands and attack Hamas.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-11-29 12:48|| 2007-11-29 12:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Per crosspatch's post: Inspiring Muslims to kill their terrorists is the only hope we will ever have of getting Islam to clean its own house. Sending back 500 rockets in reply to each Hamas launch is just one example of the disproportionate retaliation required to achieve this. Slowly but surely the West is going to finally understand the need for such persuasive measures. No other method will attain the goal of sorting out terrorists from amidst Muslim populations.

We must make Islam aware of how our responses will become increasingly indelicate in the face of any non-cooperation. Dresden and Hamburg and, finally, Hiroshima and Nagasaki lie at the far end of this approach's scale. It is up to Islam to make sure that this does not become necessary. We are under no obligation to demonstrate any sort of restraint in the face of continuing Islamic atrocities.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-29 13:36|| 2007-11-29 13:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Our dealings with the supporters of terrorist behavior has been too logical by half. The people who experience the weapons going out need to experience the weapons coming in. This notion that a missile or mortar launched from location A will result in a retaliation in some other random location will do nothing to end this. Those people do not think that way. They see the missile go out to Israel ... hear that an IAF helicopter hit a car somewhere else in Gaza and they thing God has protected them. "Somebody else" will pay the price of that missile going out.

When the people in the neighborhoods from where those missiles and mortars are launched start paying the price, they will put an end to it.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-11-29 14:06|| 2007-11-29 14:06|| Front Page Top

#8 And worse yet, Israel's retaliation the conventional way can actually make things WORSE. By hitting a random target someplace else that wasn't associated with the attack on Israel the people in the neighborhood just curse Israel as some evil entity that blew up something in their neighborhood.

It needs to be like this:

Missile goes out to Israel.
100 missiles come back to the same neighborhood that launched the missile WITHIN SECONDS of that missile striking Israel.

An observer on the gaza side should see one smoke trail going out, and in less than a minute, explosions in that same neighborhood.

Posted by crosspatch 2007-11-29 14:10|| 2007-11-29 14:10|| Front Page Top

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