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2007-07-27 Olde Tyme Religion

Pope's secretary warns of the Islamisation of Europe

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Posted by tu3031 2007-07-27 09:15|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top
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#1 So all you Europeans who thought the church was just for your grandmother get your butts back in them pews.

Posted by treo 2007-07-27 10:05|| 2007-07-27 10:05|| Front Page Top

#2 Pope Benedict has a penchant for being complete correct on matters of religion and culture, and consequently pissing off the liberals and the Muslims.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-07-27 10:07|| 2007-07-27 10:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Without wishing to be too strident, Pope Benedict needs to get behind the wheel and make this message a whole lot more clear to this world's Catholic population. I'd also hope that he could rally all the globe's religious leaders and get them to openly declare Islam a cult until it abandons shari'a law, abject gender apartheid, taqiyya, global terrorism, nuclear war upon the remaining world, capital punishment for spitting on the sidewalk ... but I digress.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-27 11:03|| 2007-07-27 11:03|| Front Page Top

#4 The complete interview, as published in SM, was translated into English by the webmaster of The Cafeteria Is Closed (heh), Gerald Augustinus.

Caveat: This is not an "official" translation, but a best effort (Augustinus is an Austrian by birth, and I'm pretty sure, a naturalized US citizen).

The entire translation is linked here.

The section alluded to by the posted article follows:

MG[Monsignor Gaenswein] : The attempts at Islamization of the West cannot be put aside. The danger for the identity of Europe that is connected to it must not be ignored for reasons of a wrongly understood respect. The Catholic sides sees it very clearly and talks about it. Especially the Regensburg speech should counter a certain naivete ("blue-eyedness"). One thing has to be pointed out - there is no Islam as such, no voice that ties all Muslims together and leads them. There are many different currents, often at war with each other, up to extremists that claim the Koran for their actions and go to work with guns. On an institutional level, he Holy See tries to make contacts and lead dialogs via the Papal Council for Interreligious Dialog.

Posted by mrp 2007-07-27 13:38|| 2007-07-27 13:38|| Front Page Top

#5 As a conservative Christian Protestant, I say:

"Go Secretary, Go!"

And, Zen, there are a LOT of us out here who realize Islam for what it is. In fact, there are many Southern Baptist preachers who've gotten raked over the coals for saying pretty much the same things as the Pope. But, from the pulpit is where the REAL fire and brimstone and speaking out against Islam is happening.

Just one more reason many of us absolutely loathe "hate crimes/speech" legislation. It has been (and will be) used against the Church to quiet the truth from being told. Right now, mostly for the gay agenda pushers, but believe me, CAIR and their ilk will use it too.

Posted by BA 2007-07-27 14:42|| 2007-07-27 14:42|| Front Page Top

#6 And, Zen, there are a LOT of us out here who realize Islam for what it is. In fact, there are many Southern Baptist preachers who've gotten raked over the coals for saying pretty much the same things as the Pope. But, from the pulpit is where the REAL fire and brimstone and speaking out against Islam is happening.

Please believe me, BA, that I want what you say to be really, really true. Since ~~participating at Rantburg~~ the 9-11 atrocities I have gained an ever-increasing appreciation for the proper self-sacrifice that Christianity demands of its worshippers. Especially so when compared to the vicious predation that Islam exacts from non-believers. My estimation of the entire Christian faith has undergone a dramatic revision in these last few years. Again, with no small thanks due to Rantburg.

Just one more reason many of us absolutely loathe "hate crimes/speech" legislation. It has been (and will be) used against the Church to quiet the truth from being told. Right now, mostly for the gay agenda pushers, but believe me, CAIR and their ilk will use it too.

Yup, "hate speech" should already be legally precluded by appropriate and existing constitutional law. The current round of protective and coddling bullshit for same had better be reversed in a New York Minute if we want worthwhile society to survive.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-27 15:48|| 2007-07-27 15:48|| Front Page Top

#7 And, Zen, there are a LOT of us out here who realize Islam for what it is. In fact, there are many Southern Baptist preachers who've gotten raked over the coals for saying pretty much the same things as the Pope. But, from the pulpit is where the REAL fire and brimstone and speaking out against Islam is happening.

Please believe me, BA, that I want what you say to be really, really true. Ever since ~~participating at Rantburg~~ the 9-11 atrocities I have gained an ever-increasing appreciation for the proper self-sacrifice that Christianity demands of its worshippers. Especially so when compared to the vicious predation that Islam exacts from non-believers. My estimation of the entire Christian faith has undergone a dramatic revision in these last few years. Again, with no small thanks due to Rantburg.

Just one more reason many of us absolutely loathe "hate crimes/speech" legislation. It has been (and will be) used against the Church to quiet the truth from being told. Right now, mostly for the gay agenda pushers, but believe me, CAIR and their ilk will use it too.

Yup, "hate speech" should already be legally precluded by appropriate and existing constitutional law. The current round of protective and coddling bullshit for same had better be reversed in a New York Minute if we want worthwhile society to survive.

More plainly put: Christianity has a far betterand more well-deserved chanceof saving this world than Islam has, ever, or will possibly show in the foreseeable future. I'll close by saying that all of you can guess where my money's been bet.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-27 15:54|| 2007-07-27 15:54|| Front Page Top

#8 DOH!

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-27 15:55|| 2007-07-27 15:55|| Front Page Top

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