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2007-07-13 Britain

Churchill dropped from England's history syllabus

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Posted by Sherry 2007-07-13 13:25|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Churchill? Oh, yeah...big fat guy? Smoked cigars, right?

Posted by tu3031 2007-07-13 13:35|| 2007-07-13 13:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Winston Churchill (The River War, 1899):

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2007-07-13 13:50|| 2007-07-13 13:50|| Front Page Top

#3 OK Now they have hit bottom.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2007-07-13 14:05|| 2007-07-13 14:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Not yet sarge. As soon as reading the Koran all the time supplants all learning, they will have.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-07-13 14:20|| 2007-07-13 14:20|| Front Page Top

#5 I can understand dropping Churchill. After all, he was a bad example: he stood up to evil, he smoked and drank.
/sarcasm
It's like the American history books that, if they mention Washington and Jefferson at all, stress that they were slave owners, rather than the great things they did and wrote.

Posted by Rambler">Rambler 2007-07-13 15:01|| 2007-07-13 15:01|| Front Page Top

#6 WTF? You would have thought people were talking about Ward Churchill--that a$shole from Colorada.

In 2002, a BBC poll with more than one million votes saw him voted the Greatest Briton of all time.

I read the comments as far as I could stomach many of them. I guess some Brits would have preferred to be speaking German or Italian today. We have our share of moonbats too.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-13 15:56|| 2007-07-13 15:56|| Front Page Top

#7 "Colorado"

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-13 15:58|| 2007-07-13 15:58|| Front Page Top

#8 As a young man Churchill understood Islam (see 'River Wars' excerpt above) - an unusual accomplishment.

As a more mature man he was significantly responsible for what became the disaster at Gallipoli - but he was not an idiot for trying a daring and unusual tactic. It could have worked and shortened the war by years. Lessons learned were applied at Normandy, etc.

He was about the only voice warning of Hitler during the '30's, and what little air defense England had was due to his back bench campaigning.

All that was before his brief moments of fame. As soon as the crisis passed, he was discarded again.

His 'History of English Speaking Peoples' should ensure his place in history for centuries, but sadly, even that is now being discarded, to the detriment of all civilization.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-07-13 16:21|| 2007-07-13 16:21|| Front Page Top

#9 But although Adolf Hitler, Mahatma Gandhi, Joseph Stalin and Martin Luther King have also been dropped from the detailed guidance accompanying the curriculum, Sir Winston's exclusion is likely to leave traditionalists aghast.

Let's be honest. By comparison, Britain's current round of leaders all look like neutered toothless poodles unworthy of having Churchill piss on them if they were set ablaze. How intimidating it must be to vainly posture and prink about in the shadow a man who was unabashedly called Nazis and fascists what they really were: Namely, "Thugs and guttersnipes".

Does anyone really think British politicians could ever be so unvarnished as that and not begin to rot after the first light rain?

"It is absurd. I expect he wasn't New Labour enough for them ... this is a Government that is very careless of British history and always has been.

Careless, not just of British history, but of Britain's future survival as a free nation. Something that Churchill cared about far more deeply than this bunch of Islam appeasing tossers.

"His fight against fascism was Britain's finest hour. Our national story can't be told without Churchill at the centre."

This cadre of revisionist traitors cannot bear to see WWII anti-fascist Britain mantled in the least shred of glory. They would sooner wipe their arses with the Union Jack than have a single schoolchild recall even one millisecond of "Britain's finest hour".

In 2002, a BBC poll with more than one million votes saw him voted the Greatest Briton of all time.

The "Greatest Briton" in living memory? Most certainly, without doubt. King John's enactment of the Magna Carta might give him an historical edge. Our modern world owes both of these giants a debt that surpasses estimation.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-13 16:34|| 2007-07-13 16:34|| Front Page Top

#10 The man had guts and a spine--no doubt. Something the toadie politicians of today know nothing. Here and across the pond.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-13 16:51|| 2007-07-13 16:51|| Front Page Top

#11 FIVE-MINUTE CLASSES FOR KIDS
More details....

Posted by KBK 2007-07-13 18:05|| 2007-07-13 18:05|| Front Page Top

#12 And then they came for history..... - thats the left.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-07-13 19:06|| 2007-07-13 19:06|| Front Page Top

#13 "He who controls the past controls the future"

Big Brother is your friend.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2007-07-13 19:58|| 2007-07-13 19:58|| Front Page Top

#14 Well, he was half-American, doncha know. can't have that trash in our new open British society......

Posted by Thineter Hitler9656 2007-07-13 20:15|| 2007-07-13 20:15|| Front Page Top

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