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2007-07-13 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by McZoid 2007-07-13 04:38|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 If I take a 'generous' view of the 'loyal' opposition, their argument is something like this:
1) We are propping up a corrupt and incompetent government (just like in Vietnam),
2) It follows other corrupt and incompetent governments we have tried to establish (just like in Vietnam),
3) It can only be followed by further corrupt and incompetent governments (difficult to argue with a redundancy like that),
4) We can't win,
therefore
5) We should pull out now and keep from wasting any more American lives and dollars.

My more cynical self suspects the logic is more like this:
1) Bush's schemes might actually work,
2) That would make him look good and us look bad,
therefore
3) We have to make sure the plans fail.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-07-13 08:03|| 2007-07-13 08:03|| Front Page Top

#2 We are propping up a corrupt and incompetent government

And this differs from what's in the beltway, how?

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-07-13 09:18|| 2007-07-13 09:18|| Front Page Top

#3 ...the danger we face today from a new totalitarian ideology, Islamofascism, is even more grave than that posed by the ideologies that brought an earlier generation World War II...

If we don't learn the lessons of history even though "History does not do us the favor of repeating itself precisely" we will be condemned to repeat it--not precisely but maybe in a way that is even costlier. Appeasement only fuels our enemies to a greater extent. We pay now or the world pays even more later. Appeasement is negligence and when it leads to such cataclysms as WWII, criminal. History's legacy of Chamberlain is that he was weak, spineless, and a failure. His inaction precipitated WWII. Will history relegate our Congressmen and women to this scrapheap of history. Will they be remembered for their failure to act and stop a threat when they had their chance? Will they be remembered for precipitating WWIII? Frank Gaffney does get it.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-13 11:04|| 2007-07-13 11:04|| Front Page Top

#4 Not if we can help it, John QC!

Posted by MSM Reporter 2007-07-13 12:41|| 2007-07-13 12:41|| Front Page Top

#5 Glenmore - I have altered your template in a way that would be instructive to the "loyal opposition"

1) We are propping up a corrupt and incompetent government (just like in South Korea),
2) It follows other corrupt and incompetent governments we have tried to establish (just like in South Korea),
3) ~~It can only be followed by further corrupt and incompetent governments (difficult to argue with a redundancy like that),~~ May eventually improve (high end of scale Japan - low end of the scale Haiti)
4) We ~~can't~~ may not win
5) We should pull out now and keep from wasting any more American lives and dollars. (Or we can stalemate and like we did in the Cold War which kept an ever increasing percentage of Koreans and Europeans free.)

My take on the current Congress is that like generals there are some Sentators and Representatives that are not fit to serve during wartime.

Posted by Super Hose 2007-07-13 21:31|| 2007-07-13 21:31|| Front Page Top

#6 For those who may have missed it, here's a link to Zucker's mini-masterpiece.
Gaffney does indeed get it.

Even President Bush, who understands that we are confronting a new and toxic ideology that extends far beyond Iraq, nonetheless systematically fails to practice the first principle of counter-ideological struggles: delegitimate your enemies.

Where once Bush was on target with "The Axis of Evil", his systematic failure to mobilize against an easily idenitified, yet still unnamed, enemy will most likely damn any legacy he might have been entitled to. Only the bombing of Iran can possibly restore any luster to Bush's administration.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-13 22:57|| 2007-07-13 22:57|| Front Page Top

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