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2007-06-20 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Report: Sneh, troops rescue Fatah men from Gaza

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Posted by Fred 2007-06-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
File under: Hamas

#1 fearing that Hamas would kill them

Puzzled... why not?

Posted by twobyfour 2007-06-20 01:17|| 2007-06-20 01:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Standard counter-insurgency warfare when dealing with tribes : pick one that is the least repellent and use them as your local levies. You don't need to like them, respect them, or wish them well - just use them so your guys don't die.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2007-06-20 01:33|| 2007-06-20 01:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Shieldwolf, I understand that. But I have a hard time to decide which of the 2 terr outlets is the least repellent.

I would also rather see the opposite, an influx of Fataheen into Gaza rather than extraction. I may have ODed on popcorn, but I can switch to doritos, if necessary.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-06-20 02:20|| 2007-06-20 02:20|| Front Page Top

#4 I have a hard time to decide which of the 2 terr outlets is the least repellent.

Good for you, twobyfour. Quite obviously your conscience is still functioning. All of these rotten turds need to die. Garnering either side's support merely prolongs the agony.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-20 03:18|| 2007-06-20 03:18|| Front Page Top

#5 I long for the day where we have the technology allowing to give weapons to the lest bad guys and wheen those bad guys are no longer useful, we push a button and the weapons self destroy.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-06-20 04:29|| 2007-06-20 04:29|| Front Page Top

#6 How about "Cyber Spy Moths" JFM?

Ok, they don't self detonate now, but it won't be long...

Posted by Tony (UK) 2007-06-20 05:30|| 2007-06-20 05:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Shieldwolf,
Adopt the system we used for years in the Iran-Iraq war: supply whichever side seems to be losing. And pass the popcorn.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-06-20 07:29|| 2007-06-20 07:29|| Front Page Top

#8 "Deputy Defense Minister Efraim Sneh, together with Givati Brigade troops, crossed into the Gaza Strip overnight Monday in order to rescue several Fatah operatives, Channel 10 reported"

Sneh went in PERSONALLY? WTF!?!? Even in Israel this is not normal behavior for a bureucrat or pol. Frankly Im skeptical, until I see some confirmation. If its true, a feather in the cap for Sneh.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2007-06-20 10:46|| 2007-06-20 10:46|| Front Page Top

#9 BTW, the side you favor is the one that doesnt fire rockets at you, or send suicide bombers against you. Thats MORE likely to be Fatah than Hamas, although we have yet to see if AAMB will attempt to attack Israel from the WB, and if so, what Abbas will do about it. Meanwhile there may well be fighting between Hamasniks and Fatah on the WB, and getting Fatah operatives to the WB to participate is a good idea.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2007-06-20 10:49|| 2007-06-20 10:49|| Front Page Top

#10 Also, this is standard "the enemy of my enemy is my friend (sorta kinda)" Once fatah is seen as an Israeli proxy by the paleo population at large, sides will be taken, and the Israelis will have divided the paleo house against itself...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-06-20 13:57|| 2007-06-20 13:57|| Front Page Top

#11 That is another point in all of this : there are several tribe-based mafias in the WB and Gaza, and some of them are associated with Hamas, and some with Fatah. Hamas is likely to stomp on the Fatah mafias in Gaza now, and Fatah will return the favor against the Hamas mafias in the WB.
Plus standard counter-mafia police work involves making deals for favorable treatment of "good" mobsters' friends and associates - Israel can play all Paleo sides against the middle on this one. Let Abdulah's boy out of prison earlier for ratting on Mustafah's operations and vice versa.
One last point that I think most people forget is that the Paleos are generational welfare hustlers : they have been sucking off of the UN's teats for going on 60 years. If Fatah is the one to get all the Western dollars, then it is likely to be the one to be able to buy the continuing loyalty of much of the Paleo population; that means that Hamas will need to "cleanse" Paleo society of these "slaves of the Zionists", and that will lead to much killing of Paleos by all sides.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2007-06-20 17:53|| 2007-06-20 17:53|| Front Page Top

#12 and that will lead to much killing of Paleos by all sides.

Around the campfires there was much rejoicing.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-20 19:52|| 2007-06-20 19:52|| Front Page Top

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