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2007-05-22 Terror Networks
New details emerge on Fatah Islam group
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Posted by Seafarious 2007-05-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 Shaker al-Absi

Explains a lot. Seperations by sex, mumbo jumbo, eye rolling. Least the Shakers didn't tend to explode and did have a fine way with craftwork.
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-05-22 02:01||   2007-05-22 02:01|| Front Page Top

#2 In Nahr el-Bared — safe from Lebanese authorities, who cannot enter Palestinian refugee camps — he built up his organization.

Why can't the Lebanese authorities enter the refugee camps?
Posted by Gladys 2007-05-22 05:39||   2007-05-22 05:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Gladys, what I know comes from an article here yesterday, about the same story:

The army sent in reinforcements to the outskirts of the camp where smoke could be seen rising into the air. The army is not allowed into Palestinian camps under a 1969 Arab agreement.
Posted by trailingwife 2007-05-22 06:04||   2007-05-22 06:04|| Front Page Top

#4 This was mentioned yesterday, becasue there is a 1969 arab agreement that grants the "refugees" that right. And this extra-territoriality and loss of sovereignty was the direct root of the lebanese civil war and subsequent downfall of what was once a christian haven in the midst of the muslim middel east.
Note that some christian lebaneses have warned their french friends that what was going on in the 'hoods in France was an exact replica of what happened to lebanon with the paleo camps, with police and other representatives of the State prevented from entering what became hostile bastions which later evolved into guerilla rear bases.
Posted by anonymous5089 2007-05-22 06:04||   2007-05-22 06:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Damn, foiled again!
Posted by anonymous5089 2007-05-22 06:04||   2007-05-22 06:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Not foiled, cher anonymous5089. Your post is full of useful background that is so helpful in putting present occurrences into perspective. Mercy bookays, my dear. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-22 06:16||   2007-05-22 06:16|| Front Page Top

#7 Thank you trailingwife and anonymous5089.

I wonder why any nation would acquiesce to such an agreement in the first place.

Posted by Gladys 2007-05-22 07:11||   2007-05-22 07:11|| Front Page Top

#8 OK I looked it up and now understand why they agreed to it in the first place, however, it appears the Cairo Agreement was cancelled in 1987 so I guess the Lebanese Army is now trying to change the status quo.
Posted by Gladys 2007-05-22 07:27||   2007-05-22 07:27|| Front Page Top

#9 The army sent in reinforcements to the outskirts of the camp where smoke could be seen rising into the air. The army is not allowed into Palestinian camps under a 1969 Arab agreement.

It's only fair that Fatah not come out of the camp also.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-22 09:51||   2007-05-22 09:51|| Front Page Top

#10 "There is no organizational relationship with al-Qaida, but we are in agreement to fight the infidels. This is the ambition and doctrine of every Muslim — to fight the enemies," he told Al-Jazeera television earlier this year.

This man is clearly a bigoted, racist Islamophobe. All right thinking people know that Islam is a religion of peace.
Posted by Baba Tutu 2007-05-22 10:52||   2007-05-22 10:52|| Front Page Top

#11 "I wonder why any nation would acquiesce to such an agreement in the first place."

cause Leb has always existed on sufferance. When the Free French gave them independence in '43, most Maronites were French speakers, and they really didnt see themselves as an Arab country. Arab League, says, fine, be like that, and we will support the Syrian claim that Leb is part of Greater Syria. Lebs, say, we are Arabs, make Arabic, not French, the official language, join Arab League, oppose Zionists, and join the Arab side in '48. In return the Arab League recognizes their independence and denies the Syrian claim, even looking aside at the Leb constitution that guarantees Maronite power.

Posted by liberalhawk 2007-05-22 11:10||   2007-05-22 11:10|| Front Page Top

#12 This particular situation has some interesting nuances. According to Walid Phares, who is from Lebanon, has extensive contacts there and is both knowledgeable and sane on Mideast subjects, the general population in Nahr el-Barad is pretty ticked off at the FatahIslam group (probably cause the don't like Sharia once they've actually experienced it). Thus the Lebanon military has recently gotten a lot of intel help.

However, the AlQ wannabees in neighboring areas are panting to copycat the FatahIslam group.
Posted by mhw 2007-05-22 14:32|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]  2007-05-22 14:32|| Front Page Top

#13 This is the Leb Army's big chance. They should LEVEL Our All Bared as an object lesson to Paleos that the old days are over and they will behave themselves in Leb or ELSE. Hama Rules, baby!
Posted by Mac 2007-05-22 17:40||   2007-05-22 17:40|| Front Page Top

#14 It's only fair that Fatah not come out of the camp also.

Except in bags or boxes.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-05-22 20:49||   2007-05-22 20:49|| Front Page Top

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