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2007-03-21 India-Pakistan

India rejects US offer of joint operations against LeT

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Posted by Fred 2007-03-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [12 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I think the real reason is the espionage.

There have been two recent cases of spying - the high ranking RAW officer Singh who fled to the US when the Indian IB began to investigate him - there are allegations he was tipped off by another RAW operative who is still active) and the honeypot operation against a member of the Cabinet Secretariat where sensitive nuclear info was passed to the US embassy - this caused the cyber-terror cooperation to be cancelled.

The memories of the FBI destruction of the timer used in the Mumbai blasts are of course still fresh in the minds of the older generation of Indian agents like B. Raman.

Posted by John Frum 2007-03-21 07:24|| 2007-03-21 07:24|| Front Page Top

#2 There are plenty of good reasons to decline US assistance - as long as India can manage without us. One not mentioned is that they can pursue their enemy more effectively without the restraining hand of the US on their shoulder holding them back - for all the bad press and bad world image, the US and its coalition partners are the most concerned about minimized collateral damage and kindness to the enemy of any military power in history.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-03-21 08:15|| 2007-03-21 08:15|| Front Page Top

#3 The memories of the FBI destruction of the timer used in the Mumbai blasts

? What's up with that John?

Posted by Clyde Threaling1504">Clyde Threaling1504 2007-03-21 08:23|| 2007-03-21 08:23|| Front Page Top

#4 The memories of the FBI destruction of the timer used in the Mumbai blasts

i second ship. what's up with that John?

Posted by RD 2007-03-21 11:18|| 2007-03-21 11:18|| Front Page Top

#5 After the 1993 Mumbai blasts, a timer and detonator were recovered intact, along with some hand grenades (of Austrian design but made in Pakistan).

The Austrian government experts India asked for help certified that the grenades were licensed manufactured using Austrian equipment in a Pak arms factory in Pakistan that an Austrian company had setup to produce arms for the Pak military.

India asked the FBI about the timer and detonators.

The FBI took the evidence away to their crime labs and produced only an unsigned document stating that the timer and detonator were US in origin, from stocks sold to the Pakistan military by the USA.

The unsigned FBI report then added that this did not mean that the ISI had provided the terrorists with the detonators since they understood that "leakage" from Pak military stocks to "smugglers" took place and the terrorists might have bought the devices from the "smugglers".

The Indian intelligence just assumed the FBI attitude was due to State Department friends of the Paks, shielding them

When the Indians asked for the return of the evidence, the FBI told them that they had "mistakenly" destroyed both timer and detonator.

This of course pissed off the Indians royally since this was the equivalent of the Lockerbie timers - proof of Pak involvement - and now the evidence was gone.

Posted by John Frum 2007-03-21 15:20|| 2007-03-21 15:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Still, they did solve the Lindbergh case. Sadly the baby was dead.

Posted by Shipman">Shipman 2007-03-21 15:49|| 2007-03-21 15:49|| Front Page Top

#7 Probably used it as a souvenir to impress some semi-hot Chinese broad..

Posted by tu3031 2007-03-21 15:53|| 2007-03-21 15:53|| Front Page Top

#8 The Indians are also quite suspicious of the Canadian CSIS destruction of the electronic intercept evidence regarding the plotters of the Air India airliner bombing off the Irish coast.

Posted by John Frum 2007-03-21 15:58|| 2007-03-21 15:58|| Front Page Top

#9 With 329 victims (greater death toll than Lockerbie) in the 1985 Air India bombing and 250 fatalities/750 casualties in the thirteen coordinated Mumbai building blasts in 1993, both with ISI fingerprints but with Pakistan protected due to overriding western interests, Indian officials like B Raman will be quite suspicious of any western assistance.

Posted by John Frum 2007-03-21 16:08|| 2007-03-21 16:08|| Front Page Top

#10 thanks John for the fill in. Those details ring true and further erode my confidence in the FBI. :-(

The professional standards of our current State Deptment and CIA by my measure anyway are as low as they were 10-15 years ago.

Both orgs produce better politicians than analysts or agents..

Posted by RD 2007-03-21 23:22|| 2007-03-21 23:22|| Front Page Top

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