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2007-01-30 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Fred 2007-01-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "If you're ~~in Iraq~~ on Planet Earth and breathing and trying to kill our troops, then you should consider yourself a target."

There, Mr. Secretary, fixed that for 'ya.

All joking aside, every time I read about one of our best being killed or wounded, I almost can't believe the above is NOT our policy.

Posted by Verlaine 2007-01-30 01:52|| 2007-01-30 01:52|| Front Page Top

#2 Bush to Iran: We will respond

But not in a meaningful way. Bush has had 3 years to respond. Now he's spent and the Democrats would rather see their urban power bases destroyed than take military action.

Posted by ed 2007-01-30 02:00|| 2007-01-30 02:00|| Front Page Top

#3 But not in a meaningful way. Bush has had 3 years to respond. Now he's spent and the Democrats would rather see their urban power bases destroyed than take military action.

Maybe. OTOH, I would be willing to bet our intel on Iran has gotten a lot better over the last couple years.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-30 08:25|| 2007-01-30 08:25|| Front Page Top

#4 Unfortunately the MSM and Democrats have demonized our Intel by repeating the 'Bush Lied' and 'The pre-war intel was flawed' that it would take a mushroom cloud over NYC or San Fran before any intel about Iran is beleaved.

And that, BTW, is as designed (by the MSM / Democrats).

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-01-30 08:40|| 2007-01-30 08:40|| Front Page Top

#5 CrazyFool, I watched Katie KuriK last night for the first time since her maiden broadcast and it's obvious that you're right. During their spot about Iranian weapons in Iraq, Kayde made it a point to question the credibility of the intel.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-30 08:49|| 2007-01-30 08:49|| Front Page Top

#6 All of the conditionals used by the White House are predicated on categorical, explicit statements that Iran is ALREADY waging war against US troops in Iraq.

I have my own interpretation of that, and of whether the "warnings" ought to be taken seriously by Iran. Hint: very large numbers of American journalists, intellectuals, and politicians are not seriously attracted to the best interests of the free world. It looks like a majority of them aren't.

How many more Americans will die due to Iranian actions UNTIL America focuses its attention on our central enemy?

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2007-01-30 09:30|| 2007-01-30 09:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Again, I X sends someone covert and gives money, weapons, etc to folks killing the troops of Y, you cant cross the border to get someone from X.

We knew in afghanistan in the 80s that if one of our guys (or the Pakis guys) was caught in Afghanistan by the Soviets there wasnt much we could do for them. But if the Soviets hit us in Peshawar, they did so at their own risk. It would be a major escalation. They never reached the point where they though it was worth the risk. Ditto for Nicaragua and the contra campaign.

We can only openly declare war on the Iranian ops inside Iraq. Not on the folks in Iran running them. Note I said openly.

Posted by liberalhawk 2007-01-30 09:52|| 2007-01-30 09:52|| Front Page Top

#8 With that type of reasoning, Germany would still be Nazi. And doctors would only treat symptoms, never their causes.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2007-01-30 10:06|| 2007-01-30 10:06|| Front Page Top

#9 medecine isnt war.

Germany attacked Poland with conventional troops.

Whether we would have eventually attacked Germany anyway is an unanswerable what if.

At this point the wisest thing to do with this info is to crack down on Iranian IN Iraq, to add to the propaganda against the regime ("prices of everything are going up in Teheran, theres joblessness, and Imanutjob is spending money blowing stuff up in Iraq and alienating the West") use it to gradually strengthen ties with anyone and everyone, from Europe to the Sunni states in the ME who has reason to be nervous about Iran, AND begin to strengthen your covert position inside Iran.

Posted by liberalhawk 2007-01-30 10:11|| 2007-01-30 10:11|| Front Page Top

#10 It's the 21st century, and warfare has undergone a paradigm shift. The days of charging across hill and dale with 40 divisions are a figment of the past, as are the the laws of war those days spawned. The US is unlikely to face any serious conventional foe in the foreseeable future, but rather undeterrable zealots with nuclear weapons, nail-packed bomb belts, and enthusiasm to spread death and destruction for its own sake.

The last few years in Iraq have been painful because our 20th century military has been adapting to 21st century realities. But adapting we are, and one adaptation may well have to be leveling an entire country moments before it levels ours. Iran is forcing us all to weigh whether we'd trade our lives for theirs, and I, for one, have decided: regretfully, f*ck no. Iran's aggression bears little resemblance to the German invasion of Poland, and our response had better be just as different.

Just my $0.02.

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-30 11:46|| 2007-01-30 11:46|| Front Page Top

#11 I am getting soooo tired of the WH singing this same tired song that it make me want to puke. How many years have we had and now with the Donks knocking of the door to the WH ( if Rudy doesn't run, IMHO there will be a Donk in there) George is toast. Please, George, just once, get off the pot and start slinging some real industrial grade sh!t into Iran. Please.
/Channelling the Discovery Channel

Maybe we should get Mike Rowe involved
/Channelling D.C. off

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-01-30 20:11|| 2007-01-30 20:11|| Front Page Top

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