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2007-01-20 Arabia

Can Woman Read Quran While in Her Period?

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Posted by Classer 2007-01-20 08:47|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 How about using one as a -er- napkin?

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-01-20 09:11|| 2007-01-20 09:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Forehead-1
Palms-2 (presumably, although 1 is possible thanks to sharia law)
Knees-2 (or 1, see palms)
Leaving 2 for toes.
Do most pious Muslims have two toes, or do all pious Muslims have big toes longer than the 2nd toes, thus enabling them to load the bases at 7?
There's a whole school of foot reading that analyzes personality types by which of the toes is longest. Does anyone remember what is said about those whose first toe is longest?

Posted by Jules 2007-01-20 09:37|| 2007-01-20 09:37|| Front Page Top

#3 But it says in the Koran that menstruation causes dyslexia.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-01-20 09:44|| 2007-01-20 09:44|| Front Page Top

#4 From the Pedigree Analysis Project"

"Big Toe Length
The length of the big toe is governed by the dominant gene, H. Individuals whose big toe is shorter in comparison to the second toe possess the dominant gene. The inheritance of the homozygous recessive, hh, results in the big toe being longer than or equal to the second toe."

There may be hope for the West yet. >:}

Posted by Jules 2007-01-20 09:52|| 2007-01-20 09:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Islam makes it easy by preventing the wymyns from learning how to read. You don't need to know that to be able to breed, it only makes em uppity

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-01-20 10:16|| 2007-01-20 10:16|| Front Page Top

#6 A woman (or a man) shouldn't have to read the Koran.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-01-20 10:23|| 2007-01-20 10:23|| Front Page Top

#7 How ironic. Large parts of the Koran were ~~made up~~ recited by Mohammed while he lay in the lap of his menstruating wife.

Hadith Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 6, Number 296:

Narrated Aisha:

"The Prophet used to lean on my lap and recite Qur'an while I was in menses. "

Posted by john 2007-01-20 10:45|| 2007-01-20 10:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Another Hadith
Sahih Muslim
Book 003, Number 0591:

'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) would recline in my lap when I was menstruating, and recite the Qur'an.

Posted by john 2007-01-20 10:47|| 2007-01-20 10:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Narrated Aisha:

"The Prophet used to lean on my lap and recite Qur'an while I was in menses. "

I didn't think 9 year old girls could menstruate.

Posted by JerseyMike 2007-01-20 11:03|| 2007-01-20 11:03|| Front Page Top

#10 She was 18 when Mohammed died....

Sahih Bukhari

According to Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. [9]

According to Urwah ibn al-Zubayr:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.[10]

According to Aisha:

the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).[11]

According to Ursa ibn al-Zubayr:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).[12]

Sahih Muslim

According to Aisha:

Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. [13]

According to Aisha:

Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old [14]

According to Aisha:

Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

Posted by john 2007-01-20 11:10|| 2007-01-20 11:10|| Front Page Top

#11 . . . ceremonial impurity . .

Would the sorority girls in Animal House say EWWWWWW? I think so.

Posted by Closh Slealing7392 2007-01-20 11:29|| 2007-01-20 11:29|| Front Page Top

#12 There are a hell of a lot more bones in your feet than seven. Even during Mohammed's time they knew this.

Memo to myself: NEVER see a Muslim podiatrist.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2007-01-20 11:42|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-01-20 11:42|| Front Page Top

#13 I'm sure I'll be sorry I asked, but what is a man's "state of ceremonial impurity"?

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-20 11:45|| 2007-01-20 11:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Ceremonial impurity:
The state of ceremonial impurity, or janabah, occurs as a result of ejaculation, whether involuntary, as in the case of a wet dream, or deliberate, or as a result of sexual intercourse. To remove it, one has to have a full bath, washing his head and every part of his body with water. So, a shower, without soap is sufficient. It is not possible to offer prayers while a person is in a state of ceremonial impurity. Therefore, it is strongly recommended to remove that state by taking a shower or a bath immediately. If that is delayed, then one simply does not do well, but there is nothing sinful in it, unless it causes him to miss an obligatory prayer.

If one happens to get into this state two or three times a day, it may not be easy for him to have so many showers. Therefore, he should make sure that removing that state is easy before one gets into it.

If it happens two or three times, without taking a shower in between then one shower would remove it all. Suppose a person goes to sleep after he had prayed Fajr, and on waking up he discovers that he has had a wet dream. He realizes that he must leave home immediately because he is late for work. That is appropriate, if he knows that he will come back before Asr time and he will be able to have his shower and pray Dhuhr on arrival. Similarly, if one has more than one intercourse with his wife during the night, he can have one shower for all. He is recommended, however, to have an ablution, or wudhu', in between.

Involuntary discharge of urine is an illness which can be treated. For the purposes of prayer, however, one should make sure that the urine does not fall on his clothes or his body. [A urinal discharge does not cause ceremonial impurity and needs washing of the affected areas of the body only.] What he should do is to tie a polyethylene bag with a piece of cotton or tissue paper in it. When he wants to have ablution and pray, he replaces it with a clean one and has his ablution. He needs to have a fresh ablution only for every prayer, repeating the same method for cleanliness.

Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2007-01-20 11:52|| 2007-01-20 11:52|| Front Page Top

#15 Well, it's noon so I'm covered...

Posted by tu3031 2007-01-20 11:57|| 2007-01-20 11:57|| Front Page Top

#16 Thanks, Thinemp, I figured it had something to do with jiz. Freud would've had a field day analyzing Muslims' multifarious sexual fixations. And you'd think feminists would also find plenty of phallic boogeymen to deconstruct.

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-20 13:07|| 2007-01-20 13:07|| Front Page Top

#17 The lack of feminist response to this socio-religious Islamic buffoonery is something that puzzles me. Imagine the uproar if Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson had even hinted at such things.

Posted by SteveS 2007-01-20 14:53|| 2007-01-20 14:53|| Front Page Top

#18 It is the overarching Political Correctness, anti-Western "All cultures are equal and deserving of the same respect", and plain old Bush Derangement Syndrome that prevents the "feminists" from saying anything. Remember that during Clinton's reign, the feminists were making excuses for his sexual escapades with a subordinate - but the moment a Repub gets caught fooling around with a staff member, it is "Sexual Harassment", and off with his head.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2007-01-20 16:05|| 2007-01-20 16:05|| Front Page Top

#19 Wha? ... Wait.... Muslim woman can read? Isn't that a stoning offense?

Posted by DarthVader 2007-01-20 16:40|| 2007-01-20 16:40|| Front Page Top

#20 Thinemp Whimble,
If I remember correctly, Bedouin washing with water in quite rare, and they usually wash by rubbing their skin with sand.
Do they have to wait till they reach an oasis before they can pray?

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-01-20 17:19|| 2007-01-20 17:19|| Front Page Top

#21 What is it with a woman's period and men?

Not just with moslem men, but pretty much all of them.

Here's a clue, guys: Without a woman's period, you wouldn't even exist. Deal with it; we have to.

I presume the moslems believe Allen made everyone and everything - which would have to include menses. So either there's nothing wrong with it, or Allen screwed up.

Or ~~probably~~ Arab men are just f*cked up about women, sex, the koran, sunrise, sunset, air, water, and just about everything else.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-01-20 19:48|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2007-01-20 19:48|| Front Page Top

#22 So it seems.

Posted by KBK 2007-01-20 19:51|| 2007-01-20 19:51|| Front Page Top

#23 Word, Barbara. Menstruation this, unclean that. I notice men never ask if it's okay to pray while wearing clothing with skidmarks.

Yes, guys, we do your laundry, we know about that. :)

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-20 20:16|| 2007-01-20 20:16|| Front Page Top

#24 Wait a minute exjag, I use the Qur'an so I won't get skidmarks! I keep a spare copy in the outhouse, ya never want to run out of tp.

Posted by 49 Pan 2007-01-20 23:58|| 2007-01-20 23:58|| Front Page Top

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