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2007-01-16 Science & Technology

Human and ~~Palestinians~~ Neanderthals interbred

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Posted by Jackal 2007-01-16 07:02|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It is not even sure that sex between Sapiens and Neandertalis could lead to the birth to a hybrid and still less sure that this hybrid would not have been sterile.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-01-16 07:52|| 2007-01-16 07:52|| Front Page Top

#2 Still, it's been recently demonstrated that polar and grizzly bears can successfully interbreed...

Posted by trailing wife 2007-01-16 10:52|| 2007-01-16 10:52|| Front Page Top

#3 But this was in "laboratory" conditions and with a non-gregarious species.

Consider this:

1) Sapiens and/or Neandertal must find the other palatable enough to have intercourse. Preferrably not one time in a million (near guarantee that at one point the hybrid line would extinguish) but quite frequently.

2) Differnce between species must be small enough for union being fecund

3) Even if it is fecund, humans are basically a gregarious species with little chances of surviving if mother or child is thrown out of the tribe (because she has had a baby who doesn't look right or "because you don't look like one of us"). If mother and baby are not thrown out of the tribe they still could be subject to discriminations => less food => weak baby who, if a boy, has little chances to prevail in competition against other males or, if a girl, could have fecundity reduced due to lack of food.

4) He/she will look funny to other sapiens, other neandertals so it is not sure he/she will find a partner. BTW that is another reason why it is requirement to have a significant number of hybrids (not just one in a million): because then hybrids can mate other hybrids, form tribes of hybrids and this greatly increases the chances of the hybrid genetic line surviving

5) If differnces between parents are great enough then he/she will be sterile

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-01-16 11:39|| 2007-01-16 11:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Sapiens and/or Neandertal must find the other palatable enough to have intercourse.

Never went to bed with a Neandertal chick, but I've woken up with a few. (rimshot)

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the veal......

Posted by Steve">Steve 2007-01-16 12:14|| 2007-01-16 12:14|| Front Page Top

#5 There was a theory floating around that HIV/AIDS was originally contracted by bush-meat hunters having sex with monkeys, there's that woman who wanted to marry the performing dolphin of her dreams ... and we know the sharia position on sex with quadropeds. There are those uninterested in the conventionality of the appearance of their sex object. Not to mention European/American explorers happily taking native wives for the duration, sometimes for life (Mr. Wife's great grandfather apparently had an Iroquois wife, which somehow everyone managed not to notice, even though they're all descended from her).

Posted by trailing wife 2007-01-16 13:13|| 2007-01-16 13:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Reminds me of the story of Dianna Troi from STNextGen. She was half human and half betazoid. She said one time she was worried she would be replaced by someone who was half human and half VHS-zoid.

Posted by mhw 2007-01-16 14:04|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2007-01-16 14:04|| Front Page Top

#7 1) Sapiens and/or Neandertal must find the other palatable enough to have intercourse.

Hey, it's all good!

Posted by Chuck Darwin 2007-01-16 14:41|| 2007-01-16 14:41|| Front Page Top

#8 half human and half VHS-zoid

Go to your room.

Posted by Pappy 2007-01-16 21:48|| 2007-01-16 21:48|| Front Page Top

#9 They could also reflect admixture with Neanderthal populations...

It was mostly full of bones from cave bears...

Ayla? Durc?

Posted by Angie Schultz 2007-01-16 22:38|| 2007-01-16 22:38|| Front Page Top

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