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Hoyer, Biden disagree with Pelosi on troop funding

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Posted by Steve White 2007-01-08 00:11|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The left just flinched...

Posted by badanov 2007-01-08 00:35|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2007-01-08 00:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Pelosi was well on her way to making it sound like she thought Congress was some kind of Politburo. She was way out of line constitutionally and she's just getting started as Speaker. They know they have to kill this themselves before the Republicans use it to drive a stake through that bitches heart.

The dems are having to check their swing already. Now that they've hesitated, I half ass expect Bush to bring the heat and blow it right by them on his next pitch. This might have given him a chance to make this weeks speech something to remember.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-08 01:01|| 2007-01-08 01:01|| Front Page Top

#3 JERUSALEM POST/DRUDGEREPORT > NUCLEAR IRAN UNACCEPTABLE. Hoyer comments - Military option still on table iff diplomacy/negotiations fail.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-01-08 01:59|| 2007-01-08 01:59|| Front Page Top

#4 And if Pelosi and her company of fruit loops can't deliver the herd of raging Moon Bats [Cindy's crew] will be on them like stink is on shit.

Posted by RD 2007-01-08 03:56|| 2007-01-08 03:56|| Front Page Top

#5 I heard a sound bite of Nancy on the radio this morning. It's clear to me that she's in charge! The President is "going to have to have a conversation" if he wants to increase troops.

Posted by Bobby 2007-01-08 06:27|| 2007-01-08 06:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Hoyer sounds a whole lot different from Pelosi. Maybe if she continues to raise hell in Congress, the Dem legislators will fire her & elect someone with a sense of decency.
Remember Pelosi is 2nd in line for the Presidency.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-01-08 09:24|| 2007-01-08 09:24|| Front Page Top

#7 Pelosi isn't commander in chief and has no say in military strategy.

But aside from that why should Bush trust her and the left? After all most of those people voted for the Iraqi war then reversed their field within just a few months of the liberation after claiming, falsley, that Bush lied.

Why should Bush think after three years of this backstabbing in wartime, he should even negotiate. They won't live up to their end of the bargain.

Posted by badanov 2007-01-08 09:49|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2007-01-08 09:49|| Front Page Top

#8 Pelosi isn't commander in chief and has no say in military strategy. Scary damn thought if she did. She and her idiot co-conspirators can try to cut off funding at some point.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-01-08 09:54|| 2007-01-08 09:54|| Front Page Top

#9 1) Pres
2) Vice Pres
3) Speaker of the House

They don't have to cut funding. They just hold hearings ad infinitum, delaying passage, so as to cripple operations. Anyway, the real power in stopping additional troops will come from the general public. I cited a Bloomburg poll two weeks ago showing only 12% showing support for more troops. Newsweek poll from last week shows this same level. Even if these numbers are inaccurate, the majority of the public is not in favor. They haven't been in the streets becuase they view our current military as hired guns..mercenaries. But, things could pick up with mass demonstrations if this is pushed. This is what really influenced Nixon to depart the bombing campaigns. He had half a million rowdy civilians right outside the White House. Really focused his attention.

Posted by SpecOp35 2007-01-08 11:04|| 2007-01-08 11:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Donks were just using Iraq as a club to beat Bush and will most likely back off on it now that they control Congress and Bush is a lame duck. Can you say "Cynical"?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-01-08 12:35|| 2007-01-08 12:35|| Front Page Top

#11 1. the Dems have been divided on the war a long time. This hasnt ended. Pelosi is NOT in the same place ideologically as Hoyer and Biden. Wake me when theres something new.
2. WRT Biden. No speaker of the House, whatever party, whatever ideology tells the goddamned Senate of the United States what to do. Esp on foreign policy. Institutional prerogative and all that. See Gingrich vs Dole.

Posted by liberalhawk 2007-01-08 16:08|| 2007-01-08 16:08|| Front Page Top

#12 And now we see the rift grow between "normal" democrats and the far-left loons that have hijacked the party.

Posted by Anon4021 2007-01-08 17:04|| 2007-01-08 17:04|| Front Page Top

#13 With Biden having to try to bring Pelosi back to reality, I really think it puts them in a bad position for next few days until they can get reorganized and get a coherent, unified position to present to the public.

This is a fantastic opportunity for Bush to make them fan on the filthiest god damned slider they have ever seen.

On Wednesday we shall see if he still has enough arm to finish the game.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-08 18:12|| 2007-01-08 18:12|| Front Page Top

#14 Okay, kudos for the baseball metaphors, but stink on shit so describes Sheehan and the donks, that the old favorite is my pick for snark o de day.

Posted by wxjames 2007-01-08 19:07|| 2007-01-08 19:07|| Front Page Top

#15 Stink on shit works for me!

I can't wait for Bush to have that conversation with Pelosi like she wants. Its been far too long since a conversation in the Whitehouse started with, Well, Nancy....
Hopefully it goes something like this. Well Nancy, I'm sending more troops. Thanks for coming in. I trust you can see yourself out?

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-08 19:30|| 2007-01-08 19:30|| Front Page Top

#16 The White House needs to hammer again and again that Pelosi is by trying to set foreigh and miltary policy of the US usurping the office of the President. Taunt her to run for president.

Posted by ed 2007-01-08 19:40|| 2007-01-08 19:40|| Front Page Top

#17 I heard a sound bite on the radio today of osamalamadingdong saying something to the effect of his "staff was looking into what can be done in regards to restricting funding for the war".

I hope the Republicans can tie him to Pelosi in this game of "we want to be the Politburo".

Posted by Mike N. 2007-01-08 20:29|| 2007-01-08 20:29|| Front Page Top

#18 If this was not so serious, I would say "pass the popcorn" as the dems dividing faster than mitosis. Maybe we better get Barbara Skolaut's gormet popcorn batallion on standby for us.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-01-08 21:41|| 2007-01-08 21:41|| Front Page Top

#19 Bush has to draw the line here in order to protect the powers of the office of the President of the United States. If he lets Pelosi walk over him on this we may as well close the office of the president.

And I'm not so sure Bush will defend the powers of the President.

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-01-08 22:05|| 2007-01-08 22:05|| Front Page Top

#20 of course he will....jeebus. Even Carter did....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-01-08 22:13|| 2007-01-08 22:13|| Front Page Top

#21 Maybe Bush should send an AC-130 up to Napa some night and shoot up a couple of her vineyards. Just to let her know who's really in charge of the big toys...

Posted by tu3031 2007-01-08 22:33|| 2007-01-08 22:33|| Front Page Top

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