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Posted by .com 2006-12-25 00:29|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Life in the brig wasn't too bad, Clousing said

That is very unfortunate.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-12-25 05:37|| 2006-12-25 05:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Maybe a year of good times, free lunch and cheap hippie wymen. Then that DHD is going to start to hurt. Self-seeking fuck-uperry is a short term occupation.

Posted by Shipman 2006-12-25 07:14|| 2006-12-25 07:14|| Front Page Top

#3 humm, notice how the MSM quit fronting their hate-Bush proxy, *fugly Sheehan* ever since the election.. wot a surprise..

Posted by RD 2006-12-25 08:46|| 2006-12-25 08:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, momma cindy loves ya. But good luck getting a job shitbag!

Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-12-25 10:55|| 2006-12-25 10:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Of course he couldn't claim conscientious objector, the dumb f***. There's no draft.
He better not be able to get any VA loans or other programs available to our military.
He should have been kept in jail until his time was up, what's this 3 month deal?
He should have to pay a penalty along with the jail time. Hell, send a strong message. Have his monthly salary (if he gets any)or deduct his pay from any job that he gets once out, to pay for the incarceration, hell yeah.
We shouldn't have to pay for any of his crap. Let the Sheehan sheep raise the money.
Sorry, it just fires me up to see these guys honor him like a hero for his cutting and running.
While our boots on the ground are still out there protecting their right to do so, just kills me.

Posted by Jan 2006-12-25 11:53|| 2006-12-25 11:53|| Front Page Top

#6 He should have been kept in jail until his time was up, what's this 3 month deal?

The military doesn't want trouble makers anymore than trouble makers want the military. Unless, there are other charges deemed worth the time and effort of full blown courts martial and the trouble of additional resources spent on the useless individual, its consider just to get rid of them. Or as Shakespeare wrote -

Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.

and for those who serve together

This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian.'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispian's day.'
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Posted by Glart Spolush5713 2006-12-25 12:16|| 2006-12-25 12:16|| Front Page Top

#7 You're right, it's best to get rid of the trash than house it.
It just kills me though how they get away with this being so dishonorable and have no integrity.
Thanks for correcting my vision a bit here ;)
Although, he'll probably write a book now....

Posted by Jan 2006-12-25 12:29|| 2006-12-25 12:29|| Front Page Top

#8 GS is correct, as much as I would like to see him branded with a C on his forhead sending him home is best. Every dollar spent on his ass is a dollar wasted and one that could have been better spent on the troops in Basic, AIT, or in the box. Thanks for trying Ricky, you failed, at least you admitted it, and now get lost!

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-12-25 13:42|| 2006-12-25 13:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Such individuals prove a theory I've got about many of the combat stress casualties and other individuals who just can't hang in a combat situation for too long.

In the combat branches you've got natural warriors who just seem designed for combat. It is like they are 100% warrior, and they are few and far between. They are natural experts, and it is obvious.

Then you have your 50% warriors. They are okay as soldiers, and they do their job, but they have no real gift for combat. They can last a long time as long as combat is intermittent and they aren't pushed too hard for too long. They can recover and keep going. These are the vast majority of soldiers. Good, but they aren't going to earn the Medal of Honor.

Then you have your 0% warriors. They only get into combat by accident, or if they are really pushed into it. They run on borrowed motivation, and when it runs out, they are the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time. They are worthless as soldiers from that point on, and the sooner they are out of the theater, the better.

Fortunately, these types rarely get into combat in the first place, generally avoiding it like the plague.

You can tell just talking to them that they shouldn't have been given a rifle in the first place. Even CS or CSS is too much for most of them.

Ironically, they often aren't COs, and even morally support the war. They just don't have that special something that it takes to be a soldier, much less a warrior.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-12-25 13:43|| 2006-12-25 13:43|| Front Page Top

#10 "Getting shot at will just plain rattle some folks..."

Posted by Mark E. 2006-12-25 14:13|| 2006-12-25 14:13|| Front Page Top

#11 Right Mark but not getting fries with their 'burg will rattle some too.

I think this sh**bird is one of the latter.

Posted by GORT 2006-12-25 15:44|| 2006-12-25 15:44|| Front Page Top

#12 Pan: I hope that last sentence was missing the sarc tag, becasue I cannot think of any act this POS did that deserves a 'thanks.' He knew what was up in 2002, and then when he saw some disturbing things, he bailed.
Too bad, war ain't pretty, people die. Perhaps the cattle shot were meant to support the bad guys, do was in no position to know.
Hope his snowboarding career is short and that somebody removes the 'Out of Bounds' signs when he is up on the hill. Just sayin, stuff happens in the snow, is all.....

Posted by USN, ret. 2006-12-25 17:01|| 2006-12-25 17:01|| Front Page Top

#13 when he saw some disturbing things, he bailed.

That's the part I don't get. A teenager accidentally being shot and some farm animals getting offed. Wow, like that's going to leave lasting mental scars. Maybe if you have ~~shit~~ mush for brains. I don't even see what this punk's excuse is unless it involves a big yellow streak down his ~~spine~~ back.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-25 17:10|| 2006-12-25 17:10|| Front Page Top

#14 Ya USN RET it was. He wasted valuable training that could have been spent on someone who would stay a while. Now some joe is doin not only his own work but this AWOL jerks as well.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-12-25 17:11|| 2006-12-25 17:11|| Front Page Top

#15 "Won't get the $30,000" > never stopped ACLU lawsuits before. The Stratification of the Cantonization of the Enclavization of the Communalization of the Katrina-ization, etc. of America = Amerika, the USSA = Soviet SSR/USR, is one of the favorite ways the Left uses to justify Big Govt in America. WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU IS WHAT YOU LOSE = THEY TAKE AWAY LATER ON.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-12-25 22:20|| 2006-12-25 22:20|| Front Page Top

#16 Deliberate AWOL in wartime should not be DD, but BCD. Felony. No longer able to vote, own a firearm, etc - and strike one in the 3 strikes law.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-12-25 23:16|| 2006-12-25 23:16|| Front Page Top

#17 OS, I agree.Felony. No longer able to vote, own a firearm, etc - and strike one in the 3 strikes law.
what is DD and BCD?

Posted by Jan 2006-12-25 23:40|| 2006-12-25 23:40|| Front Page Top

#18

DD: Dishonorable Discharge
BCD: Bad Conduct Discharge

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2006-12-25 23:45|| 2006-12-25 23:45|| Front Page Top

#19 thanks

Posted by Jan 2006-12-25 23:49|| 2006-12-25 23:49|| Front Page Top

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