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2006-11-28 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Further fishy facts emerge in Atlanta after elderly woman gunned down in drug raid

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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-11-28 10:20|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 FYI, Rodney Balko's blog The Agitator is all over this and similar stories. As a libertarian he's a big GWOT skeptic, but he's made a specialty on innocents killed in "fishy" no-knock and "dynamic entry" searches.

Posted by just sayin 2006-11-28 12:28|| 2006-11-28 12:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Sorry, code for the link is hosed. It's www.theagitator.com .

Posted by just sayin 2006-11-28 12:29|| 2006-11-28 12:29|| Front Page Top

#3 no-knock where a life is not in immediate danger is ridiculous, and more likely to result in a death of an innocent than anything else. Too many cops watching COPS

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-11-28 13:42|| 2006-11-28 13:42|| Front Page Top

#4 I see a multi-million dollar payout coming. If you live in metro Atlanta, grab your wallets. The problem is, this is becoming daily newsreel. What happens ? Cops on probation. Investigation. Cops exonerated. Cities sued. Multi-millions paid out. Taxpayers suffer. No consequences to cops who did this, the department, or the chief. Innocent people killed. No repercussions to anyone, so repeat as required.

Posted by SpecOp35 2006-11-28 19:07|| 2006-11-28 19:07|| Front Page Top

#5 It was a terrible mistake. Back in the 70's there were a handful of cop killings by radicals. So there was a federal effort to get police to change their tactics from what they had been, to SWAT.

In a nutshell, this meant that police were encouraged to brandish their guns frequently. In retrospect, this has killed hundreds of policemen who get shot with their own weapon, which could have remained safely in their holster.

There are multiple reasons. Brandished guns escalate non-violent situations to violence. Often perps want to wrestle, and an unholstered weapon is recovered by them. Finally, at distances under 15 feet, a gun can sometimes be far less effective than a knife.

Ironically, cops used to have more of a MacGyver attitude towards guns, because if they took their gun from its holster, they had to report it as an "incident".

Many of these modern problems have pushed police to find less-than-lethal weapons, which they prefer to brandishing, for their own safety.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-11-28 19:39|| 2006-11-28 19:39|| Front Page Top

#6 If a cop is going to punch a hole into someone's house and charge in, he'd better be armored and have his gun drawn, there's no way around that.
The 2 key issues in this case are (1) whether the warrant was justified in the first place and (2) how police/prosecutors/judges consider themselves above the law. "Court officials refused to release"? Have they been charged for this yet?

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-11-28 20:32|| 2006-11-28 20:32|| Front Page Top

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