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Airplane Imams: Behaviour Consistent With Security Probe

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Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-28 07:34|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 excellent report by the WTimes

The WaPo had a short article with basically only the pro Iman side of the issue. So did the Wash Examiner. So far the Imans have only been able to get a few leftists, Rep-elect Ellison and a few others on their team.

The NAACP will use this to argue against racial profiling but most black actually want to profile muslims (who are technically not a race).

Posted by mhw 2006-11-28 08:07|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2006-11-28 08:07|| Front Page Top

#2 ...Okay, here's my question: these guys did everything short of wearing signs around their neck that said "HIJACKER", "ANOTHER HIGHJACKER", etc. This was intentional, but why? Testing security? Hoping to provoke a more forceful response?

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-11-28 09:01|| 2006-11-28 09:01|| Front Page Top

#3 Rather than attach the extensions, the men placed the straps and buckles on the cabin floor, the flight attendant said.

Son of a bitch!

They ARE seeing if they can get by with having seat belt extensions around as flails!

Any bets on other news agencies picking up these details?

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-11-28 09:03|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-11-28 09:03|| Front Page Top

#4 This was intentional, but why? Testing security? Hoping to provoke a more forceful response?

Possibly this: provoke overreaction and backlash against air security, get the Dem Congress to harass the TSA. TSA dials back on intrusiveness of its security measures (normal bureaucratic reaction to bad publicity). Future hijackers have an easier time of it as a result.

Posted by Mike 2006-11-28 09:15|| 2006-11-28 09:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Do these guys go on the no-fly list? Or do they get a do-over?

Posted by Perfesser 2006-11-28 09:40|| 2006-11-28 09:40|| Front Page Top

#6 they should get the back-room beat down

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-11-28 09:41|| 2006-11-28 09:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Cause a scene, claim discrimination, file lawsuits. Whether the imams win or not, the next airline/airport security will remember the lawsuit and hesitate to take action against the next suspicious group of muslims, thus setting the stage for the next atrocity. As a bonus, if the imams win in the People's Republic of Minneapolis, it will be like taking booty from the infidels. Just no sex slaves to go along with it.

Posted by ed 2006-11-28 09:45|| 2006-11-28 09:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Rather than attach the extensions, the men placed the straps and buckles on the cabin floor, the flight attendant said.

If the Flight Attendant judged that the men did not require seatbelt extensions, why did they give them to the Imams? From now on, Mzzies fly in the cargo hold trussed like the swine they are.

Posted by Mick Dundee 2006-11-28 09:50|| 2006-11-28 09:50|| Front Page Top

#9 Rather than attach the extensions, the men placed the straps and buckles on the cabin floor, the flight attendant said.

This is the corker. To make a fuss about special treatment and then just as quickly leave these ~~potential weapons~~ objects loose and underfoot is more than suspicious.

This was a shakedown cruise for another 9-11, make no mistake about it.

Homeland Security had better be going through the backgrounds and known associates of these maggots with a fine tooth comb. I hope Ellison throws in with these terrorist abettors. It would be delightful for him to get caught up in a thorough trouncing of this sort of Islamic espionage crap.

There is a DIRECT connection between these spies and those who participated in the 9-11 atrocity. If American agents do not pick this apart at the seams it will represent a gigantic failure to fulfill their duty to the public.

I only hope that security officials delay disclosure of any incriminating facts until well after these turds have brewed up their usual Islamophobic shitstorm so that all of these devices designed to gain public sympathy can be revealed for what they are; Namely, a slow and exceedingly dangerous erosion of public awareness concerning the threat represented by continued Muslim presence on American soil.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-28 11:28|| 2006-11-28 11:28|| Front Page Top

#10 Maybe it's just me, but what is with all these suspicious characters pulling weird tricks going to my ol' stomping grounds of Phoenix? First the unemployed guy with a suitcase full of cash and a marked interest in nuclear power (possibly interested in Palo Verde, the largest nuclear plant in the western US?), and now these mooks. I understand that maybe one or two of them live there, but the rest of them? They had better have been catching connecting flights....

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-11-28 12:53|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ] 2006-11-28 12:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Like with so many things in life, it's just a matter of time...

It's just a matter of time when some more muzzies stage another incident like this one in MN. And it's just a matter of time before a patriot, on board an airliner with these same muzzies, takes matters into his own hands. Physically.

And it's just a matter of time that the patriot will find himself in federal custody looking at several years in federal prison while the muzzie fifth columnists who staged the event walk away scot free. The muzzie will (falsely) play the role of victim and the msm will smear the patriot as a bigot and islamophobe.

It's just a matter of time....

Please read the article under the RB "Opinion" section today entitled: The MN Six Sabotage Airline Security. It dovetails with the article set forth above.

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2006-11-28 13:26|| 2006-11-28 13:26|| Front Page Top

#12 More from the Invester's Business Daily (hattip Little Green Footballs):

According to witnesses and police reports, the men:

Made anti-American statements.

Made a scene of praying and chanting "Allah."

Asked for seat-belt extensions even though a flight attendant thought they didn't need them.

Refused requests by the pilot to disembark for more screening.

Also, three of the men had only one-way tickets and no checked baggage.I didn't know about that one!

Police had to forcibly remove the men from the flight, whereupon they were taken into custody. A search found no weapons or explosives, and they were released to continue on their journey. Within hours, the men enlisted a Muslim-rights group to make a stink in the press, insisting they were merely imams returning home from an Islamic conference in Minneapolis. They say they were "harassed" because of their faith.

But were they victims or provocateurs?

All six claim to be Americans, so clearly they were aware of heightened security. Surely they knew that groups of Muslim men flying together while praying to Allah fit the modus operandi of the 9/11 hijackers and would make a pilot nervous. Throw in anti-U.S. remarks and odd demands about seat belts, and they might as well have yelled, "Bomb!"

Yet they chose to make a spectacle. Why? Turns out among those attending their conference was Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, D-Minn., who will be the first Muslim sworn into Congress (with his hand on the Quran). Two days earlier, Ellison, an African-American convert who wants to criminalize Muslim profiling, spoke at a fundraiser for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Muslim-rights group that wasted no time condemning US Airways for "prejudice and ignorance." CAIR wants congressional hearings to investigate other incidents of "flying while Muslim." Incoming Judiciary Chairman John Con-yers, D-Mich., has already drafted a resolution, borrowing from CAIR rhetoric, that gives Muslims special civil-rights protections.

While it's not immediately clear whether the incident was a stunt to help give the new Democratic majority cover to criminalize airport profiling, it wouldn't be the first time Muslim passengers have tried to prove "Islamophobia" or test nerves and security.

Two years ago a dozen Syrian men caused panic aboard a Northwest Airlines flight by passing bags to each other as they used the lavatory. As the plane prepared to land, they rushed to the back and front of the plane speaking in Arabic.

Then there's the case of Muhammed al-Qudhaieen and Hamdan al-Shalawi, two Arizona college students removed from an America West flight after twice trying to open the cockpit. The FBI suspected it was a dry run for the 9/11 hijackings, according to the 9/11 Commission Report. One of the students had traveled to Afghanistan. Another became a material witness in the 9/11 investigation. Even so, the pair filed racial-profiling suits against America West, now part of US Airways. Defending them was none other than the leader of the six imams kicked off the US Airways flight this week.

Turns out the students attended the Tucson, Ariz., mosque of Sheikh Omar Shahin, a Jordan native. Shahin has been the protesters' public face, even returning to the US Airways ticket counter at the Minneapolis airport to scold agents before the cameras.

In an Arizona Republic interview after 9/11, he acknowledged once supporting Osama bin Laden through his mosque in Tucson. FBI investigators believe bin Laden set up a base in Tucson.

Hani Hanjour, who piloted the plane that hit the Pentagon, attended the Tucson mosque along with bin Laden's onetime personal secretary, according to the 9/11 Commission Report. Bin Laden's ex-logistics chief was president of the mosque before Shahin took over. "These people don't continue to come back to Arizona because they like the sunshine or they like the state," said FBI agent Kenneth Williams. "Something was established there, and it's been there for a long time." And Shahin appears to be in the middle of it.

CAIR asserts the imams are peace-loving patriots. "It's inappropriate to treat religious leaders that way," a spokesman said. Yeah, they all wear halos. Omar Abdul-Rahman, a blind sheikh, is serving a life term for plotting to blow up several New York landmarks. Imam Ali al-Timimi, a native Washingtonian, is also behind bars for soliciting local Muslims to kill fellow Americans. Imams in New York were recently busted for buying shoulder-fired missiles. Another in Lodi, Calif., planned an al-Qaida terror camp there.

We could go on and on. Imams or not, US Airways did right by its customers. Shahin is calling on Muslims to boycott the airline; that might actually work in its favor. US Airways has been flooded with calls from Americans saying it just became the safest airline.

Hear, hear.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-28 15:02|| 2006-11-28 15:02|| Front Page Top

#13 Rep-elect Ellison is quckly making himself into a contrarian indicator.

It seems that they were trying to accomplish two goals. One is to make such a scene that they can get away with their BS next time. The other might be to feint by making people look for obvious behavior then try to sneak in under the radar by behaving "normally" next time.

In any case, I would call it a good "fishing expedition" because several of the patterns that airlines watch for have now been exposed. Good job, naive Americans. You've been duped. Again. I guess it's better than just putting all this stuff on the internet directly, but it's still way too easy to get you to give away every method you have. Now that they know what to avoid, what are you going to do next?

Posted by gorb 2006-11-28 15:19|| 2006-11-28 15:19|| Front Page Top

#14 A search found no weapons or explosives, and they were released to continue on their journey.

IIRC, the next day they complained that they were trapped at the airport because nobody would let them fly on an airplane.

Do I remember correctly? Has this been addressed by the media yet?

Posted by gorb 2006-11-28 15:26|| 2006-11-28 15:26|| Front Page Top

#15 The term "Islamophobic" is a misnomer designed as an insult to the character and intelligence of those who dare even question Moslems and their behavior, and/or potential threats by radical Moslems in order to eliminate resistance to Islam and the socio-political goals of radical Islam (which is primarily a political organization, rather than religious one).

The same tactic of labeling questionable behavior--so that eventually the mere questioning of it was tantamount "proof" of bigotry--was used by other groups seeking social change in this country. The Muzzies have seen it as successful, and are now copying it.

In reality, for someone to be actually "phobic," would indicate an actual clinical psychological disorder. By contrast, looking out for the safety of oneself or one's fellow passengers is simply common sense. Profiling makes such sense.

Notice the imam's cry of "we've been HUMILIATED," etc. Always the same story. They understand the moral structure of Americans to be a weakness they can exploit. This is what they really want:

"Us bad, bad, bad Americans. Who do we think we are? We're so sorry, Moslems of the world. Forgive us. You'll never hear criticism from us or be scrutinized by us again. You are free. You are welcome here. You are our masters . . . "

Posted by ex-lib 2006-11-28 15:55|| 2006-11-28 15:55|| Front Page Top

#16 Couldn't they use the extenders as strangling weapons or to tie up the crew?

Posted by MagnonMan 2006-11-28 15:56|| 2006-11-28 15:56|| Front Page Top

#17 The term "Islamophobic" is a misnomer

IIRC, this neologism was first created by the Mad Mullahs of the iranian revolution to slander their opponents : whomever opposed them was an ennemy of islam, and thius "islamophobic". This is a very charged word.

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-28 17:46|| 2006-11-28 17:46|| Front Page Top

#18 Hi 'ya ex-lib!
You over slept? :>

Posted by Shipman 2006-11-28 18:18|| 2006-11-28 18:18|| Front Page Top

#19 Gorb,
I don't think Americans have been duped at all. I think this shows they are becoming more aware of muzzie scum each day. I also think if security doesn't do its bit each and every day with these muzzies that its inevitable that people will:
1) Get off the plane if action is not taken
2) Take action into their own hands. At this point it would be difficult to predict outcome. But if a muzzie fatality would occur, no American jury would convict. That I'd be willing to bet. Attitudes are changing drastically, day by day.

Finally, anyone down Tucson way that likes to play with matches ?

Posted by SpecOp35 2006-11-28 18:44|| 2006-11-28 18:44|| Front Page Top

#20 Just using the term islamophobia is rhetorical trickery. When I hear that word, I smell B.S.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-11-28 19:31|| 2006-11-28 19:31|| Front Page Top

#21 Hi Shipman. : )

Posted by ex-lib 2006-11-28 22:26|| 2006-11-28 22:26|| Front Page Top

#22 Good comments and material, folks. The muzzies are
1. Exploring the edge of the security envelope.
2. Stressing the security system to find weakness.
3. Intimidating the airlines and passengers.
4. Setting things up for future ops.
5. Weakening the resolve of the country.

If the government will not protect its citizens, the citizens will do it themselves. THAT is the bottom line. The government better get its head out of its collective a$$ and do its duty. When the people lead, the leaders will follow or get out of the way.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2006-11-28 22:43|| 2006-11-28 22:43|| Front Page Top

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