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Condo owners lose right to smoke in own home

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Posted by Fred 2006-11-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Welcome to the wonderful world of the Homeowners Association. Things like this are exactly why I specified to my real estate agent that I wouldn't even consider purchasing a home where I would have to put up with one.

That being said....looks like ol' Colleen has a bigger problem than her nasty habit if she has pissed off the rest of the residents to this point. I wonder if she's one of those godawful "I gots the right to light up and to hell with you and your lungs iffen you don't likes it" smokers that just don't care who they irritate with their cigarettes. Kind of serves her right if she is.

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-11-18 00:45|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ] 2006-11-18 00:45|| Front Page Top

#2 the smell of burning tobacco drifted into other condos

Sounds like they have problems with air flow. Call your neighborhood engineer to the fix the problem instead of wasting money on lawyers.

Posted by Groluns Unineger4820 2006-11-18 01:13|| 2006-11-18 01:13|| Front Page Top

#3 every lefy I know would be offended if you called them Purtains, but Purtains they are because they never Whine and Bitch incessantly about fireplace smoke, campfires, fireworks or smoke produced from cooking in their kitchens.

Posted by RD 2006-11-18 02:09|| 2006-11-18 02:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Puritan

Posted by RD 2006-11-18 02:10|| 2006-11-18 02:10|| Front Page Top

#5 RD, that's because none of them are as likely to cause your trachea to seize up like tobacco smoke.

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-11-18 04:46|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ] 2006-11-18 04:46|| Front Page Top

#6 I would not consider living any where that has a "homeowners association". Under your purchase contract they are in control of your property and rights not you. C&Rs are a real pain, best to understnd them before you make that purchase.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-11-18 05:11|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com] 2006-11-18 05:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Swamp Blondie, I don't smoke [over 20 yrs] and tobacco smoke does not bother me anymore or less than any 'ordinary' smoke does, IE fireworks, forest fires, fireplaces, BBQ, or even my Special Blackened Grub Recipes.

Not saying that actually smoking is good for a persons health, it isn't, but most " trachea clampage" ps histeria.

Posted by RD 2006-11-18 07:39|| 2006-11-18 07:39|| Front Page Top

#8 is hysteria

whereas most of my Lyping and ybtax is rtetarded

Posted by RD 2006-11-18 08:15|| 2006-11-18 08:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Nice picture, though it should have the hackenkreuz behind it.

Posted by SwissTex 2006-11-18 10:02|| 2006-11-18 10:02|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm glad it doesn't bother you, RD. But it sure sets off my asthma, and cigarette smoke does it for many other asthmatics I know.

As long as a smoker makes an effort to keep that crap away from me, and I can go to a part of the premises with clear air, I have no problem with it. Most smokers do try if you ask them to, and I appreciate that.

My mother was a chain smoker, however, and was too sadly typical of the few extremely rude smokers who loudly go off about how they have the "right" to smoke anywhere, anytime, blah blah blah....somehow I don't have the corresponding right to not use my inhaler during a public outing, or to not have my hair and clothes reek of that crap, in their self-centered view of the world.

Bringing it back to this story, she had to have pissed off even some smokers for all virtually all the residents to back a smoking ban in their own residences (I know some smokers who refuse to smoke in their own houses and go outside to do it regardless of the weather, so I know they're out there). About a quarter of the population smokes, so unless she happened to live in a place where she is the only smoker, which is highly unlikely, her behavior and attitude was bad enough to tork everyone else off.

Again, serves her right if she's that way.

In any case, don't move somewhere that has a homeowner's association if your property rights mean anything to you. If she didn't bother to read the fine print, again, serves her right...

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-11-18 10:09|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ] 2006-11-18 10:09|| Front Page Top

#11 (I know some smokers who refuse to smoke in their own houses and go outside to do it regardless of the weather, so I know they're out there).

Yeah, that's what I did. It's half the fun. Meet a lot of people that way.

Posted by Shipman 2006-11-18 11:01|| 2006-11-18 11:01|| Front Page Top

#12 Don't know about this Homeowner Ass'n, but if C & R's need changing, there is a formal method for doing that, that generally involves an approving vote of some percentage of the owners. If that is what happened, then too bad. If not, then she may have a case ( if she decides to appeal). Like others have said, read all the documents that come with your (prospective) purchase and do it before you sign on the dotted line.

Posted by USN, ret. 2006-11-18 12:48|| 2006-11-18 12:48|| Front Page Top

#13 #7 repeated with typos.

i sed.. Not saying that actually smoking is good for a persons health, it isn't, but most " trachea clampage" ps histeria.
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Swamp Blondie, wasn't discounting your condition and or referencing the sub-set of non-smokers with compromised airways.

Those persons must insist and are responsible to make sure they have fresh unpolluted air to breathe.

and certainly I recognize that there are chain smokers who are insufferable but most folks like you said are courteous and will abide your wishes when it comes to their habits.

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Pop Quiz: HEY.. how 'bout you pot smokers out there lurking and toking away..are you offended by that evil nicotine weed too?

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Posted by RD 2006-11-18 13:32|| 2006-11-18 13:32|| Front Page Top

#14 just don't mess with my beans vato!

Posted by Juan Valdez">Juan Valdez 2006-11-18 13:36|| 2006-11-18 13:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Dude smoking nicotine weed was a favorite ritual for the American Indians, they rolled up huge blunts and smoked them in big ass pipes.

It was bad medicine for them though, they lost a whole country.

Posted by Cheech">Cheech 2006-11-18 13:50|| 2006-11-18 13:50|| Front Page Top

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