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2006-10-20 Iraq

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Posted by Glenmore 2006-10-20 08:20|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Precisely why soppy British Generals/Majors should STFU and concentrate on the task in hand.

Posted by Howard UK 2006-10-20 08:38|| 2006-10-20 08:38|| Front Page Top

#2 Another example of Islam being incapatable with civilization.
It's a shame the regular Iraqi suffers at the hands of these animals, however my capacity to give a shit has worn thin.
It is decidedly un-Christian of me, but I want dead jihadi's (Sadr included), screw the democracy experiment - they don't deserve it.

Posted by JerseyMike 2006-10-20 08:42|| 2006-10-20 08:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Back we go again .. UK troops on the move back to Amara

Posted by Chilet Crealet6299 2006-10-20 08:51|| 2006-10-20 08:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Not this time, hopefully. The time for pendantic Sandhursters is over.

Posted by Pappy 2006-10-20 09:26|| 2006-10-20 09:26|| Front Page Top

#5 Consider the likelihood that the Brits withdrew because they knew this was pending and didn't want to get into it with the Shia militia.

Posted by lotp 2006-10-20 09:36|| 2006-10-20 09:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Ah, shiite!

Time to pooper scooper.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2006-10-20 09:44|| 2006-10-20 09:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Maliki sends "an emergency security delegation" of those who enable and cooperate with the Shia militia. The message is prolly, "WTF! You jumped the gun!"

Posted by .com 2006-10-20 09:47|| 2006-10-20 09:47|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm thinking its time we had a meeting of the mind with Tater - his mind and our 50 cal from a barret.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-10-20 09:49|| 2006-10-20 09:49|| Front Page Top

#9 Calling Spooky...

Posted by mojo">mojo 2006-10-20 10:08|| 2006-10-20 10:08|| Front Page Top

#10 But, but ... Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki recently announced the formation of a special committee to address the countrys illegal militia issue ...

Posted by Bobby 2006-10-20 10:11|| 2006-10-20 10:11|| Front Page Top

#11 reports indicate this started with mutual kidnappings, etc between Mahdi army and Badr Brigades, so Maliki might well be serious, as he can hardly afford to alienate SCIRI and the Badr Brigades.

OTOH Muqty probably doesnt want to alienate Badr either, so maybe this is NOT the big "Muqty hits the mattresses" moment it looks like. Maybe it really is a local thing, by "rogue" or at least semi-rogue elements.

OTOH with rumors of a US backed coup, with Muqty the obvious target of a new govt (presumably led by Allawi?) its not impossible that Muqty has decided to strike first, on the not unreasonable idea that Washington is waiting till after the US election to strike.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-10-20 11:04|| 2006-10-20 11:04|| Front Page Top

#12 This is posturing between the Iranian backed Shia and the non-Iranian backed Shia. Eventually the non-Iranian backed Shia will give the US clearance to whack Sard if this keeps up.

This posturing is timed not so much by the US elections but as a response to Sunni/Al Queda attacks that have been increasing in sychronus with the US elections.

Nothing to see here, and if the spooks and spies didn't see it coming they're not paying attention.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-10-20 12:08|| 2006-10-20 12:08|| Front Page Top

#13 At this point al-Sadr has probably lost control of his 'movement' except within Sadr City (maybe not even there). If al-Sadr gets whacked now it is more likely to be from an ex-loyal Shiite who didn't get a big enough piece of the action than by a Baathist or Sunni Jihadist or coalition soldier.

Posted by mhw 2006-10-20 12:19|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2006-10-20 12:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Come on guys, let's just give Muqy Sadr one more chance. I can just feel that he'll see the light and stop the violence....

Posted by danking_70 2006-10-20 12:37|| 2006-10-20 12:37|| Front Page Top

#15 Yeah I'll give Sadr a chance only if he comes on and sings a duet of "Im so Ronrey" with Kim Jong Il

Posted by Oldspook 2006-10-20 12:41|| 2006-10-20 12:41|| Front Page Top

#16 If possible, cordon off the Amarah, release all women and children, detain all males of fighting age. Carpet bomb the city into total rubble without any hand-to-hand engagement and declare this the new policy for all further insurgencies. Sadr's oxygen license ran out years ago.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-10-20 13:07|| 2006-10-20 13:07|| Front Page Top

#17 OTOH with rumors of a US backed coup

Wait a minute -- I missed taht one! Details, please?

Posted by trailing wife 2006-10-20 13:25|| 2006-10-20 13:25|| Front Page Top

#18 What happened to the great training that the Iraqi forces/police were supposed to be getting? If we trained them, they sure aren't learning. Time after time, the army/police aren't up to the task. Are we to believe that they're that inept? They managed to keep law and order before the invasion, with less training and worse equipment. The same tactics are being used now - terrorize the population, but the results are vastly different. We need to kill Sadr and throw maliki in the same dustbin that jaafari resides. New leadership is needed at the top. Or, we install a US led govt and proclaim iraq the 51st state, take the gloves off and obliterate any opposition.

Whatever happened to "Infinite Justice?" We cowered when the muzlems got mad about that phrase and change the operation to a touchy feely "Enduring Freedom". We need to fight dirty, dirtier than the enemy.

Posted by ET 2006-10-20 13:32|| 2006-10-20 13:32|| Front Page Top

#19 Steady, ET, I have read several positive stories about the Iraqi Army, but maybe not so many about the police. Let's wait until the whole story comes out. It has a better chance here than in the media.

Lysdexia, TW?

Posted by Bobby 2006-10-20 13:35|| 2006-10-20 13:35|| Front Page Top

#20 It's this darn new keyboard, Bobby. I've been having spelling problems ever since several months before I got it. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-10-20 13:38|| 2006-10-20 13:38|| Front Page Top

#21 lol, TW! If only we could insert you into Sadr City to hold a nice tea soiree for Muqtuy. That would solve everything, right boys?

Posted by BA 2006-10-20 14:17|| 2006-10-20 14:17|| Front Page Top

#22 Regarding the Iraqi police.

I think some people have to step back and look at how the game is played. The Iraqi have enough police to play a zone defense. The bad guys don't have enough but they do have enough to gang up on one defender, making that defender look weak or forcing the Iraqi police to leave other areas undefended.

What we need to do is use the US to supliment the Iraqi police in these scenerios and only these scenerios.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-10-20 14:26|| 2006-10-20 14:26|| Front Page Top

#23 "Fighting broke out Thursday after Qassim al-Tamimi, the provincial head of police intelligence and a leading member of the rival Shiite Badr Brigade militia, was killed by a roadside bomb. In retaliation, his family kidnapped the teenage brother of the Mahdi Army commander in Amarah, Sheik Fadel al-Bahadli, to demand the hand-over of al-Tamimi's killers."

Per fox news, Iraqi Army troops (not police) have moved in and taken back over.

British military spokesman Maj. Charlie Burbridge said 600 Iraqi army soldiers had retaken control of the city, but not before the 25 gunmen and police were killed in violence that began Thursday night. The Iraqi army dispatched two companies to Amarah, a city of 750,000, from Basra, the south's largest city.

"They've applied a solution and at the moment it's holding," Burbridge said. "At the moment, it's tense but calm," he said.

Britain had 500 soldiers on standby if called for, Burbridge said, saying British military authorities were "confident that they've (Iraqi security forces) responded as best as they can."

Posted by Oldspook 2006-10-20 14:29|| 2006-10-20 14:29|| Front Page Top

#24 confident that they've (Iraqi security forces) responded as best as they can."

Certainly he couldn't mean "as best as (they == The British) can"... could he?

Posted by eLarson 2006-10-20 16:49|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2006-10-20 16:49|| Front Page Top

#25 If we trained them then they'll be fine.. shoot first, question later.

Posted by Howard UK 2006-10-20 17:11|| 2006-10-20 17:11|| Front Page Top

#26 Tater reminds me of that enlarged prostate TV ad. The guy says I have a "going" problem. His doctor says: "No you have a growing problem."

Tater is a growing problem and our problem is how to solve the going problem.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-10-20 21:45|| 2006-10-20 21:45|| Front Page Top

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