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Small plane crashes into Manhattan building
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Posted by BA 2006-10-11 15:07|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Now Yahoo News is linking to al-Reuters who just has 2 small paragraphs on it, quoting CNN. My guess is this was just an accident, but I thought I'd post anyways. Sorry if this was an "itchy trigger finger" on posting.
Posted by BA 2006-10-11 15:20||   2006-10-11 15:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Its a fixed wing aircraft BBC saiz
Posted by Clirt Angeth8198 2006-10-11 15:23||   2006-10-11 15:23|| Front Page Top

#3 US intelligence officials say initially there is no reason to believe the crash was terrorism-related....Debka
Posted by Angeck Omoger6642 2006-10-11 15:26||   2006-10-11 15:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Norad scrambles fighters, despite probable accidental crash.
Cap in force.
Posted by J.D. Lux 2006-10-11 15:28||   2006-10-11 15:28|| Front Page Top

#5 FAA says it was fixed wing. Eyewitness on Fox News says so too. She says its right wing dipped suddenly, and she wondered why it was doing acrobatics so close to the buildings. It didn't hit her building. One of the FN talking heads is a pilot, says it sounds like a stall.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2006-10-11 15:29||   2006-10-11 15:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Democrats announce it is a Rovian plot to steal the elections in 5..4..3..
Posted by gorb 2006-10-11 15:37||   2006-10-11 15:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Weather is overcast here in NY today.
This could be just an accident though why anyone would be flying this close to the buildings in Manhattan is a bit of a mystery to me. All of NYC is pretty restricted airspace wise for small planes. The East River and the Hudson are basically the path non-commercial VFR flyers need to take. They are also restricted to about 500 feet altitude. If it hit on the 48th floor that is about 480 feet, so not likely to be a stall.
Posted by DanNY 2006-10-11 15:38||   2006-10-11 15:38|| Front Page Top

#8 NORAD fighter jets guarding airspace in a number of US cities..CNN
Posted by Unoth Gromort3751 2006-10-11 15:43||   2006-10-11 15:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Time to put on my tinfoil hat. Just saw this:

9-11-01 Upside down and backwards: 10-11-6

/Tinfoil hat off.
Posted by Thoth 2006-10-11 15:50||   2006-10-11 15:50|| Front Page Top

#10 Beautiful condo building by the way. You can see on the map how close it is to LaGuardia. Spokesman sez at least three apartments are fully engulfed in flame.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-10-11 15:50||   2006-10-11 15:50|| Front Page Top

#11 Looking at the pictures, it looks like whatever it was that crashed into the building had a pretty decent angle of incidence and a pretty good speed. Several rooms are on fire. It wasn't a glancing blow. If I had to guess I'd say it was deliberate, but obviously nobody knows yet.

I recommend that everybody sell every stock they have just in case it turns out to be terrorism. Becuse if you sell your stock, obviously you won't have to suffer the depreciation that will result when the economy tanks because they condemn a few rooms in that building. That's my logic, anyway. :-)
Posted by gorb 2006-10-11 15:53||   2006-10-11 15:53|| Front Page Top

#12 Does anybody know if this building was in line with any runways used by small planes at LaGuardia?
Posted by gorb 2006-10-11 15:58||   2006-10-11 15:58|| Front Page Top

#13 Running super said briiefly that the plane took off from Teterboro airport in NJ.
NW of the Meadowlands.

Posted by J.D. Lux 2006-10-11 16:09||   2006-10-11 16:09|| Front Page Top

#14 Some of the 9/11 hijackers stayed for a night or two at a motel right across the street from Teterboro Airport. It's about a mile from my home.
Posted by Mike Sylwester 2006-10-11 16:12||   2006-10-11 16:12|| Front Page Top

#15 Weather is overcast here in NY today

And the UN is about 1-1/2 miles south of there...

Poor visibility. That explains it.
Posted by BigEd 2006-10-11 16:13||   2006-10-11 16:13|| Front Page Top

#16 Eyewitnesses are saying that the plane made an acrobatic manuver before the crash. The ceiling is low, and La Gaurdia is around there. The pilot may have seen an incoming jet drop out of the clouds into La G, and made a panicked turn thinking he was too close.
Whatever, it's not a prime target for a terrorist. And, no missile trails were reported.
Posted by wxjames 2006-10-11 16:19||   2006-10-11 16:19|| Front Page Top

#17 I question the timing...
Posted by badanov 2006-10-11 16:20|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2006-10-11 16:20|| Front Page Top

#18 LaGuardia doesn't handle many light planes.
Teterbor does but is on the other side of Manhattan. There are several airports on Long Island, Westchester and Connecticut which also handle light planes.
Posted by DanNY 2006-10-11 16:25||   2006-10-11 16:25|| Front Page Top

#19 4 dead -- 2 on the ground, one strapped into the pilot's seat.

They know the type plane already. And registered to an individual in Florida.

http://www.wnbc.com/index.html
in NY is streaming live coverage
Posted by Sherry 2006-10-11 16:28||   2006-10-11 16:28|| Front Page Top

#20 Plane may be owned by Yankee pitcher Cory Litle. (sp)
Posted by Sherry 2006-10-11 16:39||   2006-10-11 16:39|| Front Page Top

#21 Cory Lidle
Posted by BigEd 2006-10-11 16:51||   2006-10-11 16:51|| Front Page Top

#22 I suspect Joe Torre.
Posted by .com 2006-10-11 16:59||   2006-10-11 16:59|| Front Page Top

#23 It still bugs me that the first thing said is always "no reason to believe it was terrorism".
Posted by Croluting Omush1137 2006-10-11 17:03||   2006-10-11 17:03|| Front Page Top

#24 Thanks BidEd! Being an Astro's fan.....
Posted by Sherry 2006-10-11 17:05||   2006-10-11 17:05|| Front Page Top

#25 From ESPN:

Federal Aviation Administration records showed the single-engine plane was registered to Lidle, and FBI reports show that Lidle's passport was found at the scene. The FBI believed Lidle was the only person aboard the plane and the other three deaths occurred inside the building.
Posted by tu3031 2006-10-11 17:07||   2006-10-11 17:07|| Front Page Top

#26 slide shows on Yahoo

AP
Reuters
Posted by trailing wife 2006-10-11 17:23||   2006-10-11 17:23|| Front Page Top

#27 Lidle? A little low and inside.
Posted by Shuns Uleating3851 2006-10-11 17:23||   2006-10-11 17:23|| Front Page Top

#28 TV News: All Lidle, all the time. Today.

IMHO, this is one of the true quagmires. Concentrated overkill of whatever catches the whim of the on-air producer that can be packaged into the shrunken attention span of immediate gratification junkies. Pfeh.
Posted by .com 2006-10-11 17:46||   2006-10-11 17:46|| Front Page Top

#29 From last month:

The Phillies weren't enamored of pitcher Cory Lidle's hobby of flying a four-seat airplane.

But now that Lidle is with the Yankees, it's an especially sensitive topic.

In 1979, Yankees catcher Thurman Munson died when a plane he was piloting crashed near his home in Canton, Ohio. Lidle earned his pilot's license last offseason, and has insisted his plane is safe.

"The whole plane has a parachute on it," he told The New York Times. "Ninety-nine percent of pilots that go up never have engine failure, and the 1 percent that do usually land.

"But, if you're up in the air and something goes wrong, you pull that parachute, and the whole plane goes down slowly."

A little hard when a building is approaching.

Link
Posted by Thoth 2006-10-11 17:46||   2006-10-11 17:46|| Front Page Top

#30 .com, you think A-Rod would have hit the building?

:>
Posted by Thoth 2006-10-11 17:47||   2006-10-11 17:47|| Front Page Top

#31 So much for the terrorism theories.

Did Lidle just get his license?
Posted by gorb 2006-10-11 17:50||   2006-10-11 17:50|| Front Page Top

#32 Foul! Lol, Thoth.

I grew up in Texas - and at least 5 kids in my 7th grade class flew regularly. They are now picking over the nits with Judge Napolitano on Fox. They've had NORAD, the NTSB, Mayor Bloomberg, and several on-the street interviews. Killed Filled a couple of hours.

I hope Brit does his regular routine. I'd like to learn something relevant, today.
Posted by .com 2006-10-11 17:52||   2006-10-11 17:52|| Front Page Top

#33 Did I miss something? I saw the impact point, saw the skidmark, and said "Oh well it's not a terrorist act." That was hours and hours ago, Next!
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-10-11 19:02|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]  2006-10-11 19:02|| Front Page Top

#34 Lidle? A little low and inside.

I cry, "FOUL"!
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-11 20:34||   2006-10-11 20:34|| Front Page Top

#35 Lidle? A little low and inside.

I cry, "FOUL"!

At least he finally made his impact on NYC.
Posted by Thoth 2006-10-11 20:39||   2006-10-11 20:39|| Front Page Top

#36 There are two pilots you never want to fly with, Pro athletes and rock stars. This whole event is about to be filed under stupid pilot tricks. When will these guys learn that piloting an aircraft in flight should be left to professionals.
Posted by 49 Pan 2006-10-11 20:55||   2006-10-11 20:55|| Front Page Top

#37 There were two people on the plane, according to officials. One was Lidle and the other was a flight instructor.
Posted by lotp 2006-10-11 21:10||   2006-10-11 21:10|| Front Page Top

#38 There was an FI on the plane?? It gets dumber by the report, good lord. This is a terrible event for the folks in the building.
Posted by 49 Pan 2006-10-11 21:14||   2006-10-11 21:14|| Front Page Top

#39 Bob Feller was a good, safe pilot.
Posted by Eric Jablow 2006-10-11 21:25||   2006-10-11 21:25|| Front Page Top

#40 FOX + CNN [10:00AM Guam time] > Lidle + passenger both dead, Lidle believed to be Pilot of small fixed wing civ plane, 21 other people injured or receiving treatment.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-10-11 21:43||   2006-10-11 21:43|| Front Page Top

#41 Another sad day for general aviation. And possibly a very bad day for Steinbrenner and major league baseball, who will be on the phone continuously with their lawyers and their insurance agents for the next six years. :(
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-10-11 21:53||   2006-10-11 21:53|| Front Page Top

#42 I have no love for the Yankees, nor fools, but I find soem of the comments above a little disconcerting. A wife and a son have no husband nor father, not to mention the families of the other victims. Give it a rest. Jeebus.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-11 22:20||   2006-10-11 22:20|| Front Page Top

#43 btw - my sentiments extend to Gret and the rest of the sucking-parasite media. A mechanical failure makes national news in the wake of potential blockades/war with NK. F*&K! Priorities are apparently made by ADD monkeys and Foley-bashing partisans
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-11 22:23||   2006-10-11 22:23|| Front Page Top

#44 Another pro athlete crashes a plane. Ya he leaves a widow and an orphan, this is sad. But it killed others that had nothing to do with him and injured tens of people. There comes a time when the Pro athletes, rock stars, and other need to step down from their ego and get out of the cockpit. 400 hours is a beginner, and just reaching the most dangerous experience level for accidents. He had no business flying in the busy airspace of NYC, let alone in a low vis environment.
Posted by 49 Pan 2006-10-11 22:27||   2006-10-11 22:27|| Front Page Top

#45 49 Pan - if you think his celebrity led to to the other deaths, provide proof, otherwise STFU
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-11 23:53||   2006-10-11 23:53|| Front Page Top

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