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2006-08-29 Science & Technology

New Tests for Liquid Explosives Revealed

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Posted by Zenster 2006-08-29 00:35|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Right. How to use them. Given what I read above, liquids will be banned for a long time.

Posted by Bobby 2006-08-29 06:14|| 2006-08-29 06:14|| Front Page Top

#2 The explosives triacetone triperoxide (TATP) and hexamethylene triperoxide diamine, (HMTD) can be made using hydrogen peroxide and other chemicals. But airport screening devices are not able to detect hydrogen peroxide directly.

Hmph. You're not detecting the actual stuff that goes boom, but the stuff that's used to MAKE the stuff that goes boom. NOT the same thing.

This is clearly the suggestion of someone with too little money in their pockets suggesting that those pockets be the end destination of money recklessly thrown at peripheral problems by politicians desperate to appear "INVOLVED".

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2006-08-29 14:22|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2006-08-29 14:22|| Front Page Top

#3 This is clearly the suggestion of someone with too little money in their pockets suggesting that those pockets be the end destination of money recklessly thrown at peripheral problems by politicians desperate to appear "INVOLVED".

Ptah, read the fine print carefully.

Researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, US, say that a test they developed to help diagnose diseases in the human body could be adapted to detect the chemical precursors of homemade explosives.

Another test using a different chemical was recently developed at by Allen Apblett and other chemists at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater, US. In this case, the test is a spin-off from a method they developed to neutralise explosives made with hydrogen peroxide.

Both of these detection techniques are side-cars to ongoing research. While the second application does come from investigations into explosives neutralization, both methods evolved as off-shoots of primary research and not the featherbed TSA projects you portray them to be.

Posted by Zenster 2006-08-29 14:49|| 2006-08-29 14:49|| Front Page Top

#4 No more Mentos and Cola light...grmpfff

Posted by Hupeaque Shaviter5476 2006-08-29 17:38|| 2006-08-29 17:38|| Front Page Top

#5 zen & Ptah, I think the TATP can be mixed on board the aircraft if the peroxide is brought in separately from the other pre-mixed ingredients. IIUC that is what the plot in Britain was intending to do.

In that case, detecting the stuff that's used to make the stuff that goes boom is a directly useful thing to do.

Posted by lotp 2006-08-29 19:01|| 2006-08-29 19:01|| Front Page Top

#6 a method they developed to neutralise explosives made with hydrogen peroxide

Hydrogen peroxide?

Exploding Hair?

Christina Aguilera is in trouble.

Posted by BigEd 2006-08-29 19:27|| 2006-08-29 19:27|| Front Page Top

#7 In that case, detecting the stuff that's used to make the stuff that goes boom is a directly useful thing to do.

Exactly, lotp. Plus, the test specifically identifies high-concentration peroxide, not hair coloring. Additionally, the test is as simple as checking pool water with a strip of litmus paper. This is really important as no baggage inspector can afford to whip out a Junior Meth Lab chemistry kit for every alert.

Posted by Zenster 2006-08-29 20:11|| 2006-08-29 20:11|| Front Page Top

#8 No one to speak to 'the brides of allah' that carry it inside?

Posted by Skidmark 2006-08-29 23:04|| 2006-08-29 23:04|| Front Page Top

#9 I wouldn't want to mix any peroxide explosive ingedients on a plane. The flash fire from the runaway thermal reaction will burn the heck out of the mixer, but unlikely to go kaboom.

Posted by ed 2006-08-29 23:16|| 2006-08-29 23:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Skidmark, that is the fear. Two Rusiian airliners were said to have been blown out of the sky with just that tactic.

Posted by ed 2006-08-29 23:18|| 2006-08-29 23:18|| Front Page Top

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