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Biden needs a history lesson "Delaware a slave state"

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Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-08-28 10:21|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Sorry wrong category

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-08-28 10:33|| 2006-08-28 10:33|| Front Page Top

#2 border state? how about a geography lesson?

Posted by Frank G 2006-08-28 10:38|| 2006-08-28 10:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Well it is below the Mason-Dixon line.

Posted by 6 2006-08-28 10:59|| 2006-08-28 10:59|| Front Page Top

#4 Delaware WAS a slave state. It was not a Confederate state. IE it was identical to Maryland in that regard. And effectively similar to Kentucky, despite the Confederacy recognizing Kentucky as a Confed state, based mainly on wishful thinking, IIUC.

Deleware, is therefore, normally considered a border state. Though it had fewer slaves than Md or Kentucky, and it provided troops to the North but not the South, unlike Md which had about equal numbers of volunteers on each side. So Delaware was about the most northern leaning of the border states, and today is pretty much a northeastern state in its politics, at least as much as Maryland and much more so than Virginia. So Biden is stretching things a bit, but on the historical question hes right.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-08-28 11:07|| 2006-08-28 11:07|| Front Page Top

#5 The North lost the coin toss at the start of the Civil War, so they got Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-08-28 11:09|| 2006-08-28 11:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I think what Joe meant to say is that Delaware, a state with the 8th largest black population, is currently a Plantation State run by white liberal Democrats with the consent of a majority of the black population.

Posted by Mark Z 2006-08-28 11:15|| 2006-08-28 11:15|| Front Page Top

#7 On this matter, Slow Joe is technically correct: slavery was legal (though not widespread) in Delaware right up until the 13th Amendment went into effect.

More info at slavenorth.com...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-08-28 11:16|| 2006-08-28 11:16|| Front Page Top

#8 Well it is below the Mason-Dixon line.

Yeah, but do they have Waffle House?

I figure you could be in the South if you can drive north down the highway and reach a Waffle House. (Weirdly, where I live in Maryland, that fits.)

Posted by eLarson 2006-08-28 11:37|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2006-08-28 11:37|| Front Page Top

#9 LW, I will concede that Delaware was a slave state but nobody will ever confuse it with a "Souther State" and I thougth I would never a modern politician speak of slavery as a positive. Kind of like saying: "My ancestors owned them, so I know whats best for them." I think his mouth kept running when his brain turned off.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-08-28 11:45|| 2006-08-28 11:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Missouri was a border state also. That's why St. Louis and Baltimore are not in counties.

But they do not have a Stuckey's in Delaware.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-28 11:47|| 2006-08-28 11:47|| Front Page Top

#11 Delaware is sort of like Maryland; All the business sense of the South and the hospitality of the north.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-28 11:48|| 2006-08-28 11:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Ouch.

Posted by Bobby 2006-08-28 12:23|| 2006-08-28 12:23|| Front Page Top

#13 Given that this is Joe Biden we're talking about, it's possible he just ripped off a speech by Mark Warner and forgot to update the details.

Posted by WhitecollarRedneck 2006-08-28 12:23|| 2006-08-28 12:23|| Front Page Top

#14 cold, NS. Accurate, but cold.

Posted by lotp 2006-08-28 12:28|| 2006-08-28 12:28|| Front Page Top

#15 missouris is considered a border state, but the confed claim it had seceded makes a bit more sense, since the Mo legislature DID support seccession. But the convention called to declare secession opposed it, and so when Missouris own civil war broke out, the convention was declared by the Union to be the rightful govt of Missouri.

IIUC Baltimore is seperate from Balt County cause in the 19th c Balt was wealthy, the rural areas were poor, and so the city wanted to secede from the county for fiscal reasons, and had enough clout in Annapolis to pull it off. Kinda ironic how that one turned out, huh? :)

Re: Biden Hes not saying slavery was at all good, or that he knows whats best for black folk. Hes responding to folks who say the Dems can only win with a southerner at the head of the ticket, and giving that as a reason to nominate Warner or Gore or Clark, by saying "hey, Im a southerner too". If somebody says that sitting US Senators rarely win, he'll probably try to explain that hes not really a US Senator, or something. ;)

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-08-28 13:38|| 2006-08-28 13:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Delaware is too small for a state. So is Road Island. They should share one senator.

Posted by wxjames 2006-08-28 13:43|| 2006-08-28 13:43|| Front Page Top

#17 I'd say Delaware is suffering from simple:

SLAVERY WITHOUT REPRESENTATION

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-28 13:53|| 2006-08-28 13:53|| Front Page Top

#18 Thanks, lh. I had learned it was because of the Civil War.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-28 13:56|| 2006-08-28 13:56|| Front Page Top

#19 may very well be true for St Louis, NS, I know nothing about that, and Missouris civil war history is a lot wilder than Marylands.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-08-28 14:56|| 2006-08-28 14:56|| Front Page Top

#20 Nope, Wikipedia said the St. Louis vote was 1876 and the Balto. vote 1851. Carson City is the other one, together with all 39 cities in Virginia that are not in counties.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-28 15:45|| 2006-08-28 15:45|| Front Page Top

#21 Joe knows what he's talking about this time.
http://www.slavenorth.com/delaware.htm

Posted by Darrell 2006-08-28 17:08|| 2006-08-28 17:08|| Front Page Top

#22 That Missouri "Boot heal" was no accident. Lots of post-Civil War history in them parts as well. None of it good.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-28 17:10|| 2006-08-28 17:10|| Front Page Top

#23 I want Delaware to be a chocolate state!

Posted by Mayor Nagin 2006-08-28 18:18|| 2006-08-28 18:18|| Front Page Top

#24 MMMmmmm, Chocolate.

Posted by Homer Simpson 2006-08-28 18:18|| 2006-08-28 18:18|| Front Page Top

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Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-08-28 22:06|| 2006-08-28 22:06|| Front Page Top

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