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2006-07-18 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Debka: Bush Wants the Hizballah-Israel War to Give Iran a Bloody Nose= salt

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Posted by 3dc 2006-07-18 01:34|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The longer this goes on, the more likely Iran is the big loser in this. The comments coming out Europe may indicate they also want Iran to get a bloody nose.

I'd say it's 50-50 as to whether Iran miscalculates (or someone in the IRG believes their rhetoric and acts) and Iran gets attacked.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-07-18 01:43|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-07-18 01:43|| Front Page Top

#2 That was actually a pretty rational piece right up to the point where he said, "However, the unacknowledged object of Israels campaign is none of the highly rational goals outlined by officials. It is to satisfy Washington that Tehran has been given a bloody nose and is ready to pull back from its deepening political, military and intelligence interference in Iraq." The idea that Israel's primary goal is to keep the US happy seems quite a stretch to me.

Are there any independent sources for the bit about The Abu al Fadal al Abas Brigades being an Iranian sleeper outfit?

Posted by AzCat 2006-07-18 02:24|| 2006-07-18 02:24|| Front Page Top

#3 The idea that Israel's primary goal is to keep the US happy seems quite a stretch to me.

observe with salt-water taffy

Posted by 2b 2006-07-18 09:17|| 2006-07-18 09:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Everybody wants Hez to get a bloody nose. Even the Soddies and Egyptians. Unlike the western media, they know Hez is a creature of Iran and don't like them projecting power to the Med any more than the Israelis do. Israel needs to get on with it. They need to decapitate and humiliate Hez at minimum. I think a lot of us here would prefer they open up on Syria too. That would further humiliate Iran and probably compel them to do something foolish in response.

Of course, Iran can hurt us pretty bad in Iraq right now, so settling for banging Nasrallah and decimating Hez while Syria pretends to be neutral will be a pretty good ending for July.

Posted by JAB 2006-07-18 09:56|| 2006-07-18 09:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Even the Arab League has hung those assholes out to dry. Nobody wants their country torn apart by Israel over those cockroaches. Arab loyalties seem to be a complex jungle of paybacks,bet hedging secular issues, and enlightened self-interest.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-07-18 10:20|| 2006-07-18 10:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Call it "mutual interest". Remember that we are both in a delicate balancing act with Iran, in which Israel has to protect its tactical interests, but the US does not want them to use their nukes in their strategic conflict.

As long as Israel whups Syria in a proxy war, they won't be inclined to use their nukes, and the US is there to beat seven bells out of Iran if they try to attack Israel in the process.

If Iran does attack Israel with anything short of nukes, the US owns them. They will have started an "aggressive war" in the worst possible way, and about the only thing they can do is launch missiles that have to pass through both US and Israeli defenses.

Russia, France and China would all have to back off, by pre-existing rules, and we could make Iran squeal like a pig.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-07-18 10:21|| 2006-07-18 10:21|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm with AzCat on this one. I thought the Joooos ran the U.S., not the other way around? I'm so confused.

Posted by BA 2006-07-18 10:43|| 2006-07-18 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Cute, a bloody nose. Let's get real. The proper pursuit for the USA now is to force Iran to play their hand, and engage them to the death.
That's right, Bushy, pounce on Iran and rip them apart with proper furosity.
Let's roll, damnit !

Posted by wxjames 2006-07-18 11:12|| 2006-07-18 11:12|| Front Page Top

#9 I like the 'moose view. Iran's in a tricky and likely lose-lose position. Note the quietness, rectitude even, in the last 2 days.

Posted by 6 2006-07-18 16:42|| 2006-07-18 16:42|| Front Page Top

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