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2006-06-07 Olde Tyme Religion
U.S. values push alienates Muslim women
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Posted by ryuge 2006-06-07 06:25|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Muslim women are potentially important allies in the war on terrorism, but the United States must avoid pushing Western values to win their support

Then, pardon me, I don't want their support. I'm sick of being told I have to give up my ideals to curry favor with people who have to ask if they're permitted by their "god" to provide assistance to me if I'm in an accident.

In the Muslim world, the focus is on the role within the group, not the individual.

Then the Muslim world is contemptible and against everything Western civilization -- in particular the United States -- has been doing for the last few hundred years. I mean, fer crissake, would we have accepted this crap about Nazi Germany ("the focus is on the role within the volk") or Imperial Japan?

Another aspect of the Gallup project highlighted this lack of understanding between the two cultures. When interviewers asked Americans what they most admired about Muslim societies, more than 50 percent answered "Nothing" or "I don't know."

Does that show a "lack of understanding", or a lack of anything admirable in Muslim societies?
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-06-07 07:26|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-06-07 07:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Ms. Rugh said too many Americans rely on outdated information about the Muslim world and have difficulty understanding how those societies work.

Indeed you say? Please give us an update from the year 1062 until today. Shouldn't take more than 15-20 words.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-06-07 08:49||   2006-06-07 08:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Who did they poll? The husbands (or were the husbands there during the poll)?

I bet they would have received much simular results of they had polled the southern state slaves during the civil war.
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-06-07 09:12||   2006-06-07 09:12|| Front Page Top

#4 What about Islam DOESN'T alienate women?
Posted by DarthVader 2006-06-07 09:20||   2006-06-07 09:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Why, thanks Ms Rugh, for enlightening me about the rights I would enjoy as a Muslim piece of property woman. I guess the other rights I would enjoy, like the right to undergo honor killing and female circumcision, never leaving my house without a suitable male escort, and sharing my husband with another wife kinda slipped your mind. Apparently those "rights" didn't with your fellow Americans.

I think I'd like to propose a new answer to your question about what Americans admire about Muslim cultures. Mark me down as "not one damn thing".
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-06-07 09:26|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]  2006-06-07 09:26|| Front Page Top

#6 If they don't want to come out from under the Bourka, if they enjoy being beaten and subjigated, if they enjoy a culture built on total psychosis, then.....how can I say this delicately.....f*ck 'em.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-06-07 10:27||   2006-06-07 10:27|| Front Page Top

#7 You'll know we're winning the war when: more than 75% of Americans consider that there is nothing to be admired or respected in Islam.

You'll know we have won when: an additional, popular answer reads "on the contrary, I despise Islam".
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-06-07 10:50|| http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/]">[http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/]  2006-06-07 10:50|| Front Page Top

#8 The Bush administration has promoted women's rights throughout the Muslim world to gain support in the region, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan. But a worldwide Gallup project found that many Muslim women are not as concerned about changing their status as Westerners might think.


Which explains a multitude of problems we are having both at home and abroad.
Posted by Zenster 2006-06-07 11:09||   2006-06-07 11:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Clitorectormies kind of take the spice out of life and without spice depression and alienation are just around the corner.

How would you feel if you saw Pamala Anderson enjoying herself on the internet and you know you can never feel any enjoyment and never had because you got clipped so young?

Alienation and bitterness?

Now if the genetic engineers could figure out how to grow a new working one... the situation might look up for these wimmin.

Posted by 3dc 2006-06-07 11:17||   2006-06-07 11:17|| Front Page Top

#10 My question is why are American leaders still encouraging muslim immigration? Haven't we learned by now that islam is incompatible with our way of life. Heck it's incompatible with our just staying alive. What is the motivation behind it? With high legal and illegal immigration, at least the the elites are getting rich from the cut rate labor, and it's not like they have to live in the same neighborhoods or with the consequences. The Saudis can't be paying the entire government all off, so why the rush to self destruction?

What is the point of allowing 20,000, and growing, permanent immigrants from just jihad crazed Pakistan each year. Instead the US should be working toward muslim emmigration before the situation develops like the Netherlands where the native born are escaping. Does the FBI really need the make-work of following jihadists around?
Posted by ed 2006-06-07 11:38||   2006-06-07 11:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Isn't the largest employer outside of the Afghan gov owned and run by a woman who suppies trinkets to Overstock.com?

Don't they now have their own shopping section where they can go for tea, take off their burquas and be served by other women?

These are considered hard work?
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-06-07 13:00||   2006-06-07 13:00|| Front Page Top

#12 Ed, could not agree more. This cult brainwashes all born into it. Really, only the females can turn this rotting piece of crap inside out. But, they are kept so ignorant and compliant, it never occurs to them. The thought is abhorrent to them. We cannot really deal with these people. It is just like matter/anti-matter. Mixing results in annihilation. We must get these people out of our society. We have to squash the lefties who want to provide rights and opportunities to them. They will only destroy us from within. We can't change them. And, they will never change. We must destroy ALL of them.
Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-06-07 13:14||   2006-06-07 13:14|| Front Page Top

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