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2006-05-18 Home Front: Politix
Murtha: Marines killed Iraqi civilians 'in cold blood'
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Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-18 08:26|| || Front Page|| [11137 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The investigation isn't even complete and Mumra is allready accusing our troops - all with anonymous sources.

I'm sure the MSM will be all over this but omit (or mention-in-passing) that the investigation isn't even over yet.
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-05-18 08:40||   2006-05-18 08:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Maybe so, maybe no, but that kind of retaliation commands respect. We need a Marine as president. Then we'll get the borders closed and the Iraqis all in a line with a smile on their face. And how about a hot bayonet up fat Kennedy's ass while we're at it ?
Posted by wxjames 2006-05-18 08:42||   2006-05-18 08:42|| Front Page Top

#3 http://newsbusters.org/node/5411

Apparently the incident *did* occur six months ago, when it was reported, resulting in the Court Martial of three U.S. Marine Officers, and is being touted as "new".

In other words, they are re-broadcasting the story as new, to puff up Murtha. Check out the Newsbusters link above.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-18 09:58||   2006-05-18 09:58|| Front Page Top

#4 It's also important to note that it would be a major, major humiliation for the anti-war forces for Murtha to be kicked out in the next election, so the MSM wants to give him as much help as possible.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-18 10:03||   2006-05-18 10:03|| Front Page Top

#5 Next comes the cry

"Babykillers!" then the spitting on in airports, etc.

But the lefty moonbats better not do it around me. They'll get me in their face so fast they will not know what happened. And spit on me, you better be ready to be eating soft food through your toothless mouth, because I'm beating the rest of the spit right out of you. Be thankful I'm trained, otherwise I would accidentally kill you like some amatuer would - I know where to stop and just which nerve centers to hit and bones to break for maximum pain and incapacitation without fatal effect. All this steel grey hair doesn't mean a thing if you have training and surprise and a good "walking stick" at your side.

The gives me an idea... Hey Mr Murtha, lets have a walk, one grumpy old ex-serviceman with another. Nevermind that I'm using a nice 68 inch hardwood close-grained japanese white oak bo staff with a 1/4 inch of taper at the ends as a walking stick - and no Mr Murtha, thats not woodstain for the "streaked brown and tan areas", thats sweat where I practiced with it nearly every day for over a decade.

(No Mr FBI agent, thats not a threat, its wish for a more old fashione world where you coudl give a scounrel like Murtha a good thrashing and send him on his way - not going to happen, and not prudent to make such a serious threat. I was intimating self defense were he to go batshit insane, as he seems to do, and attack me while I am peacfully trying to explain to him the error of his ways).

Egads, the world we live in where i have to put such a disclaimer on a pos thats obvious in sarcasm. I guess I'm not Colbert and liberal so I couldn't get away with it.

heh.
Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-18 10:14||   2006-05-18 10:14|| Front Page Top

#6 Not to besmirch Mumia Murtha but the investigation is still ongoing. Yes officers were relieved but that is SOP and doesn’t indicate guilt. ALL of the damning “evidence” comes from a human rights watch as far as I can tell and is probably the “unnamed official” in the recent story. Now really folks, do you honestly believe that a Marine combat patrol “murdered 15 people, most of them execution style” and thought for a moment they would get away with it? Of the two opposing forces in Iraq, which is prone to kill women and children (even execution style)? P.S. Who is Mumia Murtha's opponent and does he need cash?
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-05-18 10:21||   2006-05-18 10:21|| Front Page Top

#7 Right now, I'd even vote for a Hillary-clone if she were running opposite of Murtha. At least teach him the punsihmen for insolence and continued lying to teh detriment of the troops. I hate the Hildebeeste, but you will notice she has tiptoed very gently on these issues in the public forums.
Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-18 10:26||   2006-05-18 10:26|| Front Page Top

#8 Murtha opponent, Diana Irey. Not hard on the eyes, either.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-18 10:36||   2006-05-18 10:36|| Front Page Top

#9 You "support the troops" though, right, Rep. Murtha? And they'll get an apology if you're proven wrong, right, congressman?
Remember those scumbags that used to call you baby killer when you got home from Vietnam? Well don't complain about them anymore because you've become one of them.
Posted by tu3031 2006-05-18 10:38||   2006-05-18 10:38|| Front Page Top

#10 Cyber Sarge thanks,

from all that I've read, I suspect that the "cold blood incident" was a total set up by "media stringers" and local "insurgents" sic terrorists after the Marines went back to their base.
Posted by RD 2006-05-18 10:39||   2006-05-18 10:39|| Front Page Top

#11 Never mind I found the site for his opponent:
http://www.dianairey.com/
Wouldn't hurt our side too much if Murtha (like Daschele) was sent packing.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-05-18 10:44||   2006-05-18 10:44|| Front Page Top

#12 Today we say farewell to some brave Night Stalkers who died valiently defending our nation. So I'm not really in the mood to be f&*ked with today, and now this from the peanut factory is just making my day. As I read this drivel spewed from the senile old man, Murhta, who probably could not tell you todays date let alone spell his own name right, all I can feel is the bile and anger. I'm sickened by the fact there is a fool in the halls of congress taking part in the demoralizing of America and angered that a Marine would sell out his "once" fellow Marines for some action in the spotlight. This kind of reporting and grandstanding is just bullshit!
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-05-18 10:59||   2006-05-18 10:59|| Front Page Top

#13 "I'm sickened by the fact there is a fool in the halls of congress..."

49 Pan, there are LOTS of fools in both the House and the Senate. My mantra...Term Limits, Term Limits, Term Limits...you get the idea.

-M
Posted by Manolo 2006-05-18 11:15||   2006-05-18 11:15|| Front Page Top

#14 M, I'm with ya on that one.
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-05-18 11:24||   2006-05-18 11:24|| Front Page Top

#15 Murtha: "overreacted ... in cold blood"

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."
Posted by James">James  2006-05-18 11:30|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]  2006-05-18 11:30|| Front Page Top

#16 I say we take Murtha down with a barrage of old SCSI cards!
Posted by DarthVader 2006-05-18 11:30||   2006-05-18 11:30|| Front Page Top

#17 Pony up! Here's the link to the donations part of his opponents web page.

http://www.irey.com/HowYouCanHelp.aspx

I'm sure her campaign could use a few $$, as well as the moral support.

And yes Im totally an old school sexist ass, but I am still a man, and she is quite easy on the eyes. A real woman, not one of these girls playthings that get all the headlines these days.

Why doesn't the R party in PA start publicizing her more? If she is well spoken, whe'd make a great fresh face for the party, expecially in Western PA where the Repub center tends to be.
Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-18 11:37||   2006-05-18 11:37|| Front Page Top

#18 I'm in. Sending money today. I think your right OS about getting involved, even though I have never been in that state, their politics do affect me. I will be donating on behalf of my fallen friends.
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-05-18 11:44||   2006-05-18 11:44|| Front Page Top

#19 He is jealous from Lee Harvey Oswald's title of "Worst Marine Ever".
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-05-18 11:49||   2006-05-18 11:49|| Front Page Top

#20 Take a look at this map and you'll see that this is a gerrymandered safe donk seat. That's why Murtha has never faced serious opposition since his election in 1974! I don't know what the polling numbers show, but I'd suspect Irey is not making much headway.

The real solution to a lot of our legislative problems is not term limits, but the end of gerrymandering. Look at that map. That's not a district with common needs and lots of opinions about how to meet them. It's a district of one party voters. What we need is to have congressional districts drawn by computer to minimize the sum of the length of district borders.

Then we would have more contested elections and more legislators who had to worry about answering to the voters. As it is now, only 10% of congressioanl seats are truly competitive. The rest are safe seats.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-18 11:54||   2006-05-18 11:54|| Front Page Top

#21 49Pan (that a motorcyle reference I see there/ If so, tasty choice)...

Exactly. This isnt a local race for me either, but Murtha has made it national.

She could look like Bella Abzug for all I care, her politics are exactly where they need to be for the betterment of the nation. But I'll take the added bonus of her being attractive and fairly well spoken (watch the TV interview linked at her site).

From what I can see, she stands for smaller government, controlling spending, conservative judges, and open government (i.e. killing earmarks).

But her number one concern, the one she repeats first and foremost, from what I could see in the press clippings I dug up is: Winning The War On Terror. THAT marks her as a serious ally, the type we need in congress.

That fact that she would replace a cut-n-run traitorous asshole is just icing on the cake.

Someone want to ping Hugh Hewitt, the Milblogs,, Powerline, etc (even Rush Limbaugh?) about her site - and the publivity + support I'm sure she could use?
Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-18 11:54||   2006-05-18 11:54|| Front Page Top

#22 Take a look at this map and you'll see that this is a gerrymandered safe donk seat.

Peeve: How hard is it to write a law saying "all districts shall be drawn in a way such that a chord from any point on an edge to any other point on an edge shall not pass through another district in the same state".
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-05-18 12:17|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-05-18 12:17|| Front Page Top

#23 I talked about this clown yesterday. Yes, he needs to be "counseled." What a douche bag.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-18 12:19||   2006-05-18 12:19|| Front Page Top

#24 She should win on common sense alone. Hope se does well. Yup OS 1949 pan, hard tail, suiside clutch, and tank shifter. Gotta love it!
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-05-18 12:23||   2006-05-18 12:23|| Front Page Top

#25 Not in cold blood, colonel.
The Grave of the Hundred Head
Posted by gromgoru 2006-05-18 12:43||   2006-05-18 12:43|| Front Page Top

#26 The Pa 12th may not be a democrat stronghold. Notice the smaller ones in the nearby Pittsburgh area. They are democrat strongholds, although, for the life of me I can't understand why the union types align with communists. Murtha is setting himself up as a bigmouth with bad breath.
I support Club for Growth, a right wing financial support group for spendthrift politicians. C4G does not support Irey, but those we do support often win. Join us, and eventually, America will be controlled by small government legislators. Just Tuesday, C4G backed anti-tax candidates upset 2 republican leaders in Harrisburg. Tuesday, we went 2 for 3 against incumbents.
Posted by wxjames 2006-05-18 13:18||   2006-05-18 13:18|| Front Page Top

#27 Perhaps the corps needs to rethink the "once a Marine always a Marine credo" in certain cases.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2006-05-18 13:25||   2006-05-18 13:25|| Front Page Top

#28 49 Pan, you carry our gratitude as well for your brave comrades who gave all for the fight.

It will be interesting to see how Murtha's election goes. Lots of old-fashioned Red Americans in Pennsylvania, and lots of veterens, for whom "former Marine colonel" isn't going to swing the kind of weight it used to.

Oldspook, I never noticed you being an old school sexist ass. Perhaps you need to work harder at it. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2006-05-18 13:32||   2006-05-18 13:32|| Front Page Top

#29 There are a few companies (notably CTC in Johnstown) that used to do quite well on Murtha's earmarks. I suspect that that gravy train has been permanently derailed by his senility. I suspect Rep Murtha couldn't get a lobbyist to drink a cup of coffee with him now even if Murtha paid for it.
Posted by RWV 2006-05-18 14:09||   2006-05-18 14:09|| Front Page Top

#30 http://www.irey.com/news/Read.aspx?Id=8

She might be maneuvering, but I like her already. She at least sounds like she has her head screwed on straight.
Posted by Anon4021 2006-05-18 14:29||   2006-05-18 14:29|| Front Page Top

#31 Just got off the Phone with my Representatives offic. I demanded censure. How many of you have done so? Time to remind these gonks we are in a war. We can not tolerate this nonsense from the left.

I would not micturate on a Democrat if they were on fire.
Posted by SPoD 2006-05-18 15:17|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-18 15:17|| Front Page Top

#32 Irey struck back"

“I was shocked and dismayed by my opponent’s charge that U.S. Marines are responsible for murdering Iraqi civilians in cold blood. Why John Murtha would say such a thing in the wake of an ongoing investigation and accuse our troops of such horrific actions is beyond comprehension,” Irey said.

Good - keep up the pressure on this senile old "ex-Marine".

I've always been told that there's no such thing as an "ex-Marine", but I'm sure the Corps will make an exception in Mr. Murtha's case.

OS - if you need someone to guard your back, I'll be there.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-05-18 15:27|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-18 15:27|| Front Page Top

#33 James Taranto in the WSJ has a good comment:

What happened in Haditha we know not, but we can tell you that Murtha's description is false, for the simple reason that it is self-contradictory. If the Marines "overreacted," then the killings were not premeditated. They could not have killed both in the heat of the moment and in cold blood. Murtha therefore either is slandering the Marines by exaggerating their guilt or making excuses for horrific war crimes.

Why would he do such a thing? The key is that phrase "because of the pressure on them." They're depraved on account of they're deployed: Murtha seeks to maximize the evil of the alleged crimes while simultaneously deflecting blame from the actual perpetrators to those who have applied "pressure" to them--i.e., civilian leaders in the executive branch.

Sound familiar? This was just what John Kerry did back in 1971, when he told tales (many of them false) of war crimes in Vietnam. . . . War crimes do, of course, exist, even if Kerry told fabricated stories. To excuse war criminals by denying that soldiers are responsible for their actions is an insult to everyone who has ever worn a military uniform and conducted himself honorably and lawfully.
Posted by Mike 2006-05-18 17:12||   2006-05-18 17:12|| Front Page Top

#34 Rep. Murtha's statements were wrong because they will likely cause harm to this country, its troops, and its allies. They were also ill-advised, as the allegations have not been proven. However, I am very concerned the allegations will eventually be found to have substantial elements of truth, which will come out sooner or later. All should take advantage of any opportunity to mitigate future damage - remember what trouble Abu Graib caused.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2006-05-18 17:52||   2006-05-18 17:52|| Front Page Top

#35 ... in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan.
Posted by DMFD 2006-05-18 18:24||   2006-05-18 18:24|| Front Page Top

#36 that's Ghengis Khan
Posted by John F. Kerry 2006-05-18 19:16||   2006-05-18 19:16|| Front Page Top

#37 I that it was Madelyn Khan. She was great in Blazing Saddles. "I'm tired..."
Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2006-05-18 19:24||   2006-05-18 19:24|| Front Page Top

#38 Khannnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Kirk 2006-05-18 20:38||   2006-05-18 20:38|| Front Page Top

#39 Madelyn Kahn would be great anywhere.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-18 21:22||   2006-05-18 21:22|| Front Page Top

#40 except she's kinda ...dead?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-05-18 21:29||   2006-05-18 21:29|| Front Page Top

#41 Thank you TW.
Posted by 49 Pan 2006-05-18 22:27||   2006-05-18 22:27|| Front Page Top

#42 This clown (Murtha) sounds like an Al Qaeda/Baathist propagandist.

I think we have a traitor.
Posted by Gromosh Elminegum5705 2006-05-18 23:29||   2006-05-18 23:29|| Front Page Top

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