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2006-05-16 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Bastard alert : Florida teen's massacre called 'gift from Allah'
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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-05-16 07:24|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 And tonight on the mnews at six the BBC will have another sob-story from Paleostine...
One imagines that Abu Amin will be getting his own appointment with Allah, courtesy of the IDF, in the not too distant future.
Posted by Howard UK 2006-05-16 08:02||   2006-05-16 08:02|| Front Page Top

#2 I never usually post wrt anything having to do w/Israel & Palestine as I never really have a dog in that fight and am apathetic to the whole thing now. The place is like a bad hangover -much akin to how I feel about N.Ireland as an ancestral Ulsterman. This, however, is beyond repungnant. Nasser needs to f*cking die right now, and if our gov't had any grapefruits they'd be either actively helping the IDF track this douchebag down or they'd send our own hunter-killer teams in there to exact the punishment due for killing an American - just a kid at that. I'm so sick of these middle-eastern pussies that I regretfully think it's almost time to advocate going hitler on their asses. Islam has been doomed from the very first sentence that mohammed supposedly scribbled down.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-16 08:20||   2006-05-16 08:20|| Front Page Top

#3 These assholes are two skidmarks on society. When I think of the hundreds of millions we have flushed down the toilet of palestine it makes me feel sick.
We have cut them off the gravy train and there they should stay. Israel should send a Tomahawk missile over the barrier for every kassam rocket or mortar or RPG that comes their way. They should kill a thousand palestinians for every Jew that is killed. Maybe they would understand that.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-05-16 08:22||   2006-05-16 08:22|| Front Page Top

#4 "We will hit whenever we will think it is suitable and do not expect that I give details but we can hit everywhere."

Like hell. They been trying to inflitrate scores of bombers into Israel and the one in Tel-Aviv is the only success they've had in the last 4 months. Meanwhile, hundreds of these roaches have been picked off by the IDF. Once the fence is completed the trap will be shut and these savages will start killing each other while the Israelis watch at the ringside eating popcorn.
Posted by Apostate 2006-05-16 08:40||   2006-05-16 08:40|| Front Page Top

#5 "They should kill a thousand palestinians for every Jew that is killed. Maybe they would understand that."

-jim, that would be the only thing they understand & actually grudgingly respect.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-16 08:41||   2006-05-16 08:41|| Front Page Top

#6 If Israel doesn't have the balls to turn off the water... maybe one of our teams could perm. turn it off?
Posted by 3dc 2006-05-16 09:41||   2006-05-16 09:41|| Front Page Top

#7 In the mean time... telling the world that all the joints in the waterpipes to GAZA are sealed with a mixture containing lard from pigs would be a good starting point.
Posted by 3dc 2006-05-16 09:42||   2006-05-16 09:42|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh, I'm sorry. Was I supposed to feel sorry for them? Didn't work.
Posted by DarthVader 2006-05-16 09:45||   2006-05-16 09:45|| Front Page Top

#9 I agree that it is the height of masochism for the Israelis to not just abide those who wish to exterminate them, but to actively encourage them.

And this is not limited to Paleos. It is a cultural deficiency in Jewish culture that has cost the lives of countless Jews.

It includes the assumption that their enemies must have a "reasonable" point of view, somewhere, and if the Jews can somehow just "understand" where they are coming from, then they can change so that their enemy doesn't hate them anymore.

In other words, it is time for the Jews to become intolerant.

Jerusalem should be singularly Jewish. They should expel all other religions, not just Islam. It should be to them as Mecca is to Islam. With fair remittance to the actual owners of land, it should be eminent domained so that no non-Jew owns any property therein.

Second, the wall should be 100% completed, and no Paleo should be permitted to cross for any reason--including humanitarian medical reasons.

Third, by a date certain, unless the attacks stop, Israel should retake all Gaza and West Bank border crossings. From that point on, any aggression by any Paleo will result in that Paleo, and their entire family, being deported, either to Egypt, Jordan or Lebanon. Unless another country is willing to accept them, then they can go there, too. But permanently expelled. Known troublemakers and their families should be deported immediately.

Alternatively, Paleos who cut up rough in Gaza should be expelled to the West Bank and vise versa. Let the Paleos explain to the world why "internal deportation" from a Paleo area to a Paleo area is inhumane, solely because you might be slaughtered by your fellow Paleos for belonging to the wrong tribe, clan or gang, with no Israeli involvement.

Right now, the Jews have started to encourage Israeli Arabs to emigrate. This should continue, but with added emphasis.

Otherwise, the Israelis are behaving like a small child with an interesting, but dangerous power tool, that repeatedly and seriously injures them, but is so fascinating they cannot help but play with it more.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-16 10:46||   2006-05-16 10:46|| Front Page Top

#10 "Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths." Isa. 59:7
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-16 11:59||   2006-05-16 11:59|| Front Page Top

#11 "I never usually post wrt anything having to do w/Israel & Palestine as I never really have a dog in that fight..."

But you *do* have a dog in that fight. One "dog" has historical ties to the land going back thousands of years, is recognized legally as a nation, is on the cutting edge in regard to science and technology, and employs a uniformed military as a largely defensive measure (going out of its way to avoid civillian casualties).

Meanwhile, the other "dog" abandoned their claim to the real estate they were offerred decades ago, instead believing that their Arab "brethren" would eliminate the other side militarily (fortunately that didn't happen). That "dog" isn't recognized as a nation and history records that there has NEVER been a sovereign nation/state nor a homogenous people carrying their (alleged) name. Further still, in spite of billions of dollars in direct and indirect aid, the other dog has no economy to speak of. Lastly, the other "dog" has explicitly stated that it seeks the annihilation of the other side and regularly *targets* civillians rather than military assets.

We all have a dog in this fight. This is about as close to having to choose between good and evil as we're likely to find.
Posted by Crusader 2006-05-16 12:08||   2006-05-16 12:08|| Front Page Top

#12 The main financial support and weapons support comes from Iran. Bomb Iran as retaliation. Bomb them now, bomb them tomorrow, bomb them next week, bomb them next month, and bomb them next year.
Is that clear ?
Posted by GPatton 2006-05-16 12:17||   2006-05-16 12:17|| Front Page Top

#13 No Christians or churches in Jerusalem, Moose?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-05-16 12:50||   2006-05-16 12:50|| Front Page Top

#14 I think the US should retaliate for the death of our citizen by running an ARCLIGHT strike north-south through Gaza. Any survivors can be forcefully deported to Saudi Arabia or Iran. Let the people financing this mess take care of the aftermath. Then tell the Israelis that they can take the Gaza as Israeli territory.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-05-16 14:20|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-16 14:20|| Front Page Top

#15 Frank G: reasonableness is a two-way street. Several Christian factions in Jerusalem continually squabble over literally square inches that are "their" turf.

They behave like everybody else in the region, childishly. The reason being that they feel they "own" a piece of Jerusalem.

But kicking them out, too, does not mean razing their holy sites, or even denying the practice of their religion on those sites. It just means that they no longer "own" it. Everything is "owned" by the Israelis. Note, I did not say the religion of Judaism. I mean, owned by the secular state of Israel.

Everything that they do there will continue to be done there, by every sect willing to abide by the rules and share. Religious services will still be held, and all manner of pilgrims will be attended to. But no longer will *any* religion have *any* claim to a physical part of Jerusalem.

Except for, of course, Judaism, to its own holy sites. It will be the official state religion, as it is now; but the state will continue to recognize its secular nature to play host to other religions.

Their monks and Priests and other holy personages will live in rental apartments and houses owned by Jews, or leased by the state of Israel on very generous terms. The only thing denied them is the claim of ownership.

The primary goal is to return civility to religious behavior, and the undeniability that Jerusalem is, and will remain, Israeli only.

Of course, the most important religious place that will be owned by Israel is the al-Asqa mosque. By taking away "ownership" of the mosque, it means that mosque management must be approved of by Israel. Think planning and zoning. No digging for Jewish artifacts to destroy, no other construction without engineering approval, limits on crowd size. Islamic factionalism will be prohibited: Shiites should be able to worship there as well as Sunnis, Sufi and Wahabbi, etc. Each may use their own Imams if they choose. But none of them "own" the mosque.

And most of all, limits on behavior. Israel can then set rules so that any misbehavior can be dealt with, mostly by the permanent expulsion from Israel on anyone who misbehaves. If, for example, an Imam preaches hate or violence, he and maybe even his entire sect, could be threatened with expulsion.

If they throw rocks at the Jews below, at the wailing wall, expulsion. If they create a public disturbance anywhere in Jerusalem, it reflects on their sect.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-16 14:38||   2006-05-16 14:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Gotta agree with Frank on this one Moose. Mecca is a lousy idea. Replicating an all-Jewish Jerusalem is another one. I was there in January. Seeing the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and the tomb of Mary was very significant. Taking that away is not an option.
Posted by remoteman 2006-05-16 14:44||   2006-05-16 14:44|| Front Page Top

#17 Sorry writing while you were too. I see the distinction, but it won't fly because the secular Israeli government is not really secular given that there are powerful religous parties in the Knesset.
Posted by remoteman 2006-05-16 14:48||   2006-05-16 14:48|| Front Page Top

#18 That argument doesn't fly for the singular reason that those parties have held sway, in past, as the marginal vote between Labor and Likud. They did not demand much of anything from other religions, instead wanting welfare for their sects, and maybe to oppress the secular Jews a little bit.

So all told, nothing would change except official ownership, and that religious sites could no longer be used as dormatories for a given sect.

Actually, it benefits different sects by making entire religious sites available to them, where before they were restricted to just their own little part. So Russian Orthodox get their service from 5-6pm, Greek Orthodox from 7-8pm, and Roman Orthodox from 9-10pm, for example. With four or five times as much room for their different pilgrims.

It doubly applies to the Moslems, as, for example, the Wahabbis hate and want to destroy any and all artwork put up by other sects, and would be forbidden from doing so. They also couldn't lock out the hated Shiites, who they might call heretics, or even get into fights with them, without risk.

No one would really be oppressed here, except if they thought that taking away their right to oppress others was oppressive to them, which most think.

In the latter case, it's like the Mohammed cartoons. Freedom trumps offense. Being offended does not give you the right to decapitate someone.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-16 15:09||   2006-05-16 15:09|| Front Page Top

#19 All you ever need to knoe about islam:

Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2006-05-16 15:09||   2006-05-16 15:09|| Front Page Top

#20 Crusader, I respect your opinion, but disagree. Not my fight, not my war, pretty much sick of hearing about it. I dealt w/Israelis via the Corps. They acted as if they had a right to our intel and technology, I respected their military skills but other then that didn't have much use for them. My brother working in the USAF SPO'S for *certain* jets had similar experiences w/them. I believe Israel definitely has a right to exist and defend itself & I am certainly no Paleo sympathizer but overall I'm not going to jump on the next bird to Tel Aviv & stick my neck out for them unless given the order from higher. I'd like to see us stay the hell out of their affairs and let them solve their own issues however they see fit. In the mean time, if certain Paleo groups start targeting Americans then we need to start brutal retaliations by whatever means necessary.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-16 15:40||   2006-05-16 15:40|| Front Page Top

#21 We might as well accept the truth, our government isn´t going to do jack shit about this. There won´t be any bombing campaigns, there won´t be any arrests. We are just left with another devestated family, and alot of angry messages on the internet.

I feel the only way to fight these islamonazis is by targeting innocent muslim civillians, in the US, and abroad. Everytime there is a suicide bombing that targets our civillians (US,UK,Israel,Aus,Etc)we respond by butchering innocent muslims. Then hopefully forcing a worldwide ceasefire, after a few years of tit for tat attacks. Yes that is lowering ourselves, yes that is losing whatever moral high ground we had, but let´s face it..the World doesn´t stand with us, they stand on the sidelines and lecture us on everything we do. They don´t view us having any kind of moral high ground next to Paleos, Iraqis, and the rest of the muslim cult. What if roles reverse and the US had the "groups of thugs" who butcher innocents, and our government could lecture the outraged about how these are responses to Muslim crimes & aggression. What will the World do then? Bitch and moan? Call us evil? Call us a terrorist state? They already do this!

I love my country, I love my people, and it pains me in ways I cannot express when I hear one of our children referred to as a "dog belonging in Hell." Our very same child who was sentenced to death, for eating dinner with his family. When does the cheek turn for the final time? I know killing innocent muslims isn´t going to bring Daniel or anyone else back. It certainly won´t be gaining revenge or dealing justice, but if anything it may convince the mythical moderate muslim to see what it means to actually target civillians for extermination. From that understanding, only then can we bridge the gap that divides us, and find a way to stop this bullshit.
Posted by Destro in Panama 2006-05-16 15:43||   2006-05-16 15:43|| Front Page Top

#22 "I imagine him as one of these Nazis who live here [in the settlements.] There is no difference between him and them . . ."

Well, as usual, double-speak. The Paleos and other Arabs admire Hitler and the Nazis, so it's just a PR "insult." My other thought is that aggressive, decisive action against gangster Arab conglomerates would go a long way with the moderates. Some of them would probably be relieved. But if control cannot be achieved it will come to the point where "intolerance" = survival.
Posted by ex-lib 2006-05-16 17:19||   2006-05-16 17:19|| Front Page Top

#23 Was last year's earthquake in the northern regions of Pakland, th eone that killed upwards of 80,000 Muslims, also a gift from Alan?
Posted by Lancasters Over Dresden 2006-05-16 21:46|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]  2006-05-16 21:46|| Front Page Top

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