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2006-04-22 Iraq

NY Slimes: Young Officers Join the Rumsfeld Debate

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Posted by Captain America 2006-04-22 19:32|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Junior officers and kadets would do well to avoid the night-soil press, stick to their studies, duties, and leadership of the men in the ranks.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-04-22 19:45|| 2006-04-22 19:45|| Front Page Top

#2 Revolt? by nine out of how many hundreds of retired generals?

How many young officers? 2? 3? Nine? What were the questions - were they leading? Did you stop beating your wife yet?

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-04-22 19:46|| 2006-04-22 19:46|| Front Page Top

#3 oh I'm sure they found some people who are mad at Rummy. he stepped on a lot of army toes.

question is whether he was right nor not.

Posted by anon 2006-04-22 19:57|| 2006-04-22 19:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Gerald Ford Troubled by former generals' Rumsfeld ~~bitching and moaning~~complaints.

"Allowing retired generals to dictate our country's policies and its leadership would be a dangerous precedent that would severely undermine our country's long tradition of civilian control of the military," Ford said.

Posted by doc 2006-04-22 20:00|| 2006-04-22 20:00|| Front Page Top

#5 FYI to "Revolting Officers" - You weren't drafted!

Posted by FeralCat 2006-04-22 20:26|| 2006-04-22 20:26|| Front Page Top

#6 anonymous sources...speaking against W and Rummy...how convenient?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-04-22 20:38|| 2006-04-22 20:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Any officer who speaks to a reporter from the NY Times ought to have his/her security clearance yanked immediately. Followed by a really long tour inventorying messkits at Fort Godknowswhere, Arizona.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2006-04-22 22:04|| 2006-04-22 22:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Digressing a bit - to some trivia:

What sort of stake do you guess that West Point graduates have in the ogoing war(s)?

I mean - it has been more than 35 years since a General Officer was killed in battle. But - what about West Point junior officers?

Think for a minute about:

1) West Point graduates are what percentage of all presently serving Army officers?

2) West Point graduates are what percentage of all presently serving US Army personnel?

3) West Point graduates are what percentage of all US Military personnel - including all branches?

4) West Point graduates are what percentage of all coalition forces - of all nations - that have served in Iraq or Afghanistan?

All right, have you got those numbers in mind?

Now - if I told you that 1.15% of all coalition deaths in all theaters of the global war have been active duty West Point graduates, would you believe me?

You can check the numbers yourself: 34 active West Point officers killed http://www.aogusma.org/as/admin/remembrance.htm (I did not count the one who died as a civilian at the WTC, nor the one who died as a retired LTC, working as a contractor in Iraq).

For coalition deaths (2,947 as of today), I used:
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/ , including the link to Afghanistan data.

If any group has a stake in the matter, it is West Point cadets and graduates.

Posted by Lone Ranger 2006-04-22 22:36|| 2006-04-22 22:36|| Front Page Top

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