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2006-04-07 India-Pakistan
Thousands of Sipah-e-Sahaba members descend on Islamabad
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-04-07 02:29|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 It's a good thing dogs can lick their own balls. That part about eating their own butt nuggets, however, is a bit much.
Posted by Criger Shaling7432 2006-04-07 05:05||   2006-04-07 05:05|| Front Page Top

#2 This must be the very low profile
Posted by Paul Moloney 2006-04-07 05:49||   2006-04-07 05:49|| Front Page Top

#3 The good news announces itself, Yusef Islam. The bad is what we need to keep track of, to know how the war is going against those who use terror in their efforts to expand the Ummah and establish the Caliphate. We welcome those Muslims who understand that their religion is as personal and private as whatever faith or non-faith others may choose, and that the rules of Islam must be subject to the secular laws of the nation. Those that insist that the laws of Islam (which I understand means submission, not peace) will rule over all, believers and non-believers alike, can go to Hell, or to a country more congenial to their way of thinking, whichever they choose. And those Muslims that try to proselytize me will be treated the same as anyone else who tries to pursuade me: I assess areas of ignorance and assign homework.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-04-07 07:51||   2006-04-07 07:51|| Front Page Top

#4 "Yusef Islam" is MBD (Man Bites Dog) trolling, again.
Posted by Criger Shaling7432 2006-04-07 07:59||   2006-04-07 07:59|| Front Page Top

#5 One MOAB, please.
Posted by wxjames 2006-04-07 09:15||   2006-04-07 09:15|| Front Page Top

#6 'Those that insist that the laws of Islam (which I understand means submission, not peace)

It means both, IIUC, just as Shalom means peace, but is also fullness. completion Shalem. In Islam one attains peace by submission to Allah, just as in Judaism one attains peace, a state of completing oneself, by studying and following Torah.

If we misread that and think that the name of Islam is about political domination, then we have forfeited the meaning of Islam to precisely those like Sipah e sahaba who want to establish a caliphate, and we make it more difficult to reach out to those who dont.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-07 13:08||   2006-04-07 13:08|| Front Page Top

#7 If we misread that and think that the name of Islam is about political domination,

I think the problem is that the clerics in the mosque misread it to mean submission and are preaching that worldwide in the mosques. It's a bit as if a good percentage of the local churches started preaching that the will of God was to kill Jews and Muslims and subject the government to the laws of the church and a good number of follwers began to implement their suggestions. That becomes a problem that needs to be identified and dealt with, and I think you'd have a problem with Christians doing that, even though its not the true meaning of Christianity. For some reason, you have deluded yourself that that is just not happening in mosques, since you don't want it to be so.

I agree with you that the majority of Muslims are just good, ordinary folks. That's not really the issue that faces us today in the form of suicide bombs, advances in nuclear technology and attempts to redefine our freedoms, repress free speech and allow for the subjugation of women here and world wide, now is it?

Optimism is good. Denial of reality is bad.
Posted by 2b 2006-04-07 13:30||   2006-04-07 13:30|| Front Page Top

#8 As ive said before, only a minority of muslims beleive in the seperation of Islam and state. By the same token only a minority of muslims believe in reestablishing the Caliphate, or in forcing jews and christians around the world to dhimmitude. Rather most muslims living in muslim countries would like their countries to recognize islam as the official religion of the country, and recognize SOME aspects of Sharia, esp family and inheritance law, as state law. I dont like the latter, and i dont think the latter helps those countries to advance, but its NOT what the current war is about.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-07 14:43||   2006-04-07 14:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Yeah, whatever. I wouldn't want to put a rain cloud over your happy world, LH. Everyone is good. No one is bad. Sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
Posted by 2b 2006-04-07 19:00||   2006-04-07 19:00|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Yusef Islam 2006-04-07 05:02||   2006-04-07 05:02|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Yusef Islam 2006-04-07 12:56||   2006-04-07 12:56|| Front Page Top

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