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2006-01-12 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-01-12 11:50|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So, how good are these air defenses at taking out 450 cruise missiles? This reminds me of the startup of Gulf War II, in which Richard Meyers and others had described our strategy as "Shock and Awe." During one particularly striking barrage, a Pentagon reporter asked "Is this it? Is this the shock and awe." The reply (I don't know who made it) was: "If you have to ask, it's not shock and awe."

Posted by Perfesser 2006-01-12 13:00|| 2006-01-12 13:00|| Front Page Top

#2 So they have a bunch of cold war crap pointed at the sky. They would invariably hit something if they shot enough, but stealth bombers are probably not what they were made to defend against.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-01-12 13:35|| 2006-01-12 13:35|| Front Page Top

#3 You may recall that al Guardian, al Independent, etc all lauded Saddam's military before each of the last two wars. They'd count up all the toys -- x many tanks, y many howitzers, etc -- and conclude that our military just wouldn't be a match. We all know what happened, and why.

Now it's happening with the Iranian military. Oooooh, they have air defense guns! The USAF can't possibly fly through the wall of lead that they'll put up! We're doooomed!

What rot. The first moment the Iranian air defense crews on those missiles see anything will be the moment a HARM ruins their day.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-01-12 14:45|| 2006-01-12 14:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Do the Chinese have an embassy there? No, seriously! - that's where all the Mullahs will be hiding.

Posted by Jake-the-Peg 2006-01-12 14:47|| 2006-01-12 14:47|| Front Page Top

#5 The new Russian equipment is not cold war crap, unfortunately.

Posted by JAB 2006-01-12 16:56|| 2006-01-12 16:56|| Front Page Top

#6 None of their air defence capabilities are a viable threat to our missle systems when supported by countermeasures. There are less than 20 sites that are believed to be weapons related facilities. A strategic strike would be fairly easy and with very high probability of total success, destroying all sites and very few aircraft over Iran.

We must be careful of the assymetrical threat Iran can activate in the area, their conventional forces are a joke. We know the Qud are supporting Hezbollah and Hammas and have capabilities world wide. Iran understands clearly the impact of an attack on shipping in the Straights of Hormuz (sp). I always joke of Nuking Iran, but we have time and we should hold until we have a bit more stability in Iraq.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-01-12 19:18|| 2006-01-12 19:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Iran understands clearly the impact of an attack on shipping in the Straights of Hormuz (sp).

Which is why a simple Riot Actâ¢ needs to be read to Iran concerning how any attempt to blockade the Straits of Hormuz will result in the complete destruction of Kargh Island terminal.

I purposely advocate partially crippling this vital tanker filling terminal specifically so that there is more damage to be done if Iran proves non-compliant. First we sever all input pipes to the terminal. Should Iran prove agressive, we then demolish the entire structure, a devastating economic blow to Iran.

A scenario might be as such:

a) Destruction of all nuclear facilities plus limited damage to their military.

b) Iran retaliates by mining the Straits.

c) Crippling of Kargh Island.

d) Limited naval engagement with commercial traffic in the Straits.

e) Full destruction of Iranian military capacity. (and)

f) Threat to obliterate Kargh Island. (upon further Iranian action)

g) Thorough rubble-bouncing of all major military infrastructure.

This one is for all the marbles and we'd better act like it. Half measures won't cut it.

Posted by Zenster 2006-01-12 19:55|| 2006-01-12 19:55|| Front Page Top

#8 I like it. I would add to (f). and threaten total destruction of Teheran's infrastructure.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-01-12 20:14|| 2006-01-12 20:14|| Front Page Top

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