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2006-01-04 Iraq
Despite Murtha, U.S. soldiers in Iraq are re-upping by the thousands
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Posted by Besoeker 2006-01-04 08:02|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [10799 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Thank God for America's Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines. The brave young men and women who have served and continue to serve during the GWOT will lead this great country well into the future. They, not Washington politicians like Murtha, Kennedy, and Pelosi, are our hope for the future.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-01-04 09:18||   2006-01-04 09:18|| Front Page Top

#2 I keep seeing comments in this site like the last sentence of the post by Besoker, therefore I have a question for the repubs/cons in this site.

"Exactly WHAT is it about Democrats leaders such as Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Murtha and Kerry that draws such venomous derision in your comments about them?"

Rantburger site host Fred has already told me that these people make him want to "spit".

Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 11:47||   2006-01-04 11:47|| Front Page Top

#3 They're assholes.
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 11:49||   2006-01-04 11:49|| Front Page Top

#4 tu:

They are assholes because they oppose much of
President Bush and the Republicans agenda?
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:01||   2006-01-04 12:01|| Front Page Top

#5 I'd say...no. They were assholes a long time before Bush showed up. I think it's just their nature...
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 12:08||   2006-01-04 12:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Zell Miller said it well enough at the 2004 RNC:
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Since I last stood in this spot, a whole new generation of the Miller Family has been born: Four great grandchildren.

Along with all the other members of our close-knit family — they are my and Shirley's most precious possessions.

And I know that's how you feel about your family also.

Like you, I think of their future, the promises and the perils they will face.

Like you, I believe that the next four years will determine what kind of world they will grow up in.

And like you, I ask which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone to best protect my family?

The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you tonight. For my family is more important than my party.

There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust their future and that man's name is George Bush.

In the summer of 1940, I was an eight-year-old boy living in a remote little Appalachian valley.

Our country was not yet at war but even we children knew that there were some crazy men across the ocean who would kill us if they could. President Roosevelt, in his speech that summer, told America "all private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense repealed by an overriding public danger."

In 1940 Wendell Wilkie was the Republican nominee.

And there is no better example of someone repealing their "private plans" than this good man. He gave Roosevelt the critical support he needed for a peacetime draft, an unpopular idea at the time.

And he made it clear that he would rather lose the election than make national security a partisan campaign issue.

Shortly before Wilkie died he told a friend, that if he could write his own epitaph and had to choose between "here lies a president" or "here lies one who contributed to saving freedom", he would prefer the latter.

Where are such statesmen today? Where is the bi-partisanship in this country when we need it most?

Now, while young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrat's manic obsession to bring down our Commander-in-Chief.

What has happened to the party I've spent my life working in? I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny.

It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city.

Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.

Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.

And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators.

Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers.

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier. And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home.

For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.

No one should dare to even think about being the Commander in Chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home.

But don't waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking America is the problem, not the solution.

They don't believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy.

It is not their patriotism - it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking. They claimed Carter's pacifism would lead to peace.

They were wrong.

They claimed Reagan's defense buildup would lead to war.

They were wrong.

And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

Together, Kennedy/Kerry have opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that is now winning the War on Terror.

Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security but Americans need to know the facts.

The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40% of the bombs in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.

The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.

The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi's Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.

The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles, that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and this very city after 9/11.

I could go on and on and on: Against the Patriot Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel, Against the Aegis air-defense cruiser, Against the Strategic Defense Initiative, Against the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S. Armed Forces? U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?

Twenty years of votes can tell you much more about a man than twenty weeks of campaign rhetoric.

Campaign talk tells people who you want them to think you are. How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside.

Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations.

Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide. John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security. That's the most dangerous outsourcing of all. This politician wants to be leader of the free world.

Free for how long?

For more than twenty years, on every one of the great issues of freedom and security, John Kerry has been more wrong, more weak and more wobbly than any other national figure. As a war protestor, Kerry blamed our military.

As a Senator, he voted to weaken our military. And nothing shows that more sadly and more clearly than his vote this year to deny protective armor for our troops in harms way, far-away. George Bush understands that we need new strategies to meet new threats.

John Kerry wants to re-fight yesterday's war. George Bush believes we have to fight today's war and be ready for tomorrow's challenges. George Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists.

No matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under.

George Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip. From John Kerry, they get a "yes-no-maybe" bowl of mush that can only encourage our enemies and confuse our friends.

I first got to know George Bush when we served as governors together. I admire this man. I am moved by the respect he shows the First Lady, his unabashed love for his parents and his daughters, and the fact that he is unashamed of his belief that God is not indifferent to America.

I can identify with someone who has lived that line in "Amazing Grace," "Was blind, but now I see," and I like the fact that he's the same man on Saturday night that he is on Sunday morning.

He is not a slick talker but he is a straight shooter and, where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words.

I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel.

The man I trust to protect my most precious possession: my family.

This election will change forever the course of history, and that's not any history. It's our family's history.

The only question is how. The answer lies with each of us. And, like many generations before us, we've got some hard choosing to do.

Right now the world just cannot afford an indecisive America. Fainthearted, self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.

In this hour of danger our President has had the courage to stand up. And this Democrat is proud to stand up with him.

Thank you.

God Bless this great country and God Bless George W. Bush.

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If that's not clear enough, then you're a troll.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 12:08||   2006-01-04 12:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Zell Miller is entitled to his opinion.
Personally I think what he did at the
RNC Convention was dispicable.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:13||   2006-01-04 12:13|| Front Page Top

#8 I thought Cassini was a NASA probe deep into outer space?

To discourage Americans from signing up in our armed forces during a time of war makes one a first-rate asshat in my book.

BTW: I wonder how long before MSM, Murtha (The Dems latest useful idiot), Kerry, Pelosi, and company blame Bush for the coalminers' deaths. I'm betting about another hour.
Posted by The Happy Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2006-01-04 12:15|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]  2006-01-04 12:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Brilliant. Troll.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 12:15||   2006-01-04 12:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Personally I think what he did at the RNC Convention was dispicable.

Why?
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-01-04 12:16||   2006-01-04 12:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Probably because he put the safety and well-being of the Nation ahead of politics, and spoke the truth as he saw it.

Thats a big despicable no-no in the moonbat cave.
Posted by Evil Elvis 2006-01-04 12:24||   2006-01-04 12:24|| Front Page Top

#12 .com

For Democratic Sen. Zell Miller to go to the Republican Presidential Convention embrace THEIR nominee, denigrate his Party, its nominee and politicians in the manner he did was the act of a outlandish, dispicable turncoat. I have zero respect for him and think he should have been shot for what he did.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:24||   2006-01-04 12:24|| Front Page Top

#13 I'm fine with people B*tchiing about almost anything under the sun. Unfortunately Cassini the only thing I can't stan is a man complaining about the right he has to complain. those guys are over there so that 5 years from now we can still be sitting here on our laurels and whining and moaning back and forth. Cassini give me an example of when a person avoided war by asking for mercy... We didn't exactly ask the terrorists to kill our innocents so its just as fair we hunt them down without restraint and make sure it never happens again.
Posted by Burned2many 2006-01-04 12:26||   2006-01-04 12:26|| Front Page Top

#14 Interesting, Cassini: you'd shoot Zell Miller but not Saddam Hussein. Thanks for sharing that.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-01-04 12:26||   2006-01-04 12:26|| Front Page Top

#15 Evil Elvis:

Do you actually think President Bush has made the U.S. "safer"?
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:27||   2006-01-04 12:27|| Front Page Top

#16 Zell's "Fainthearted, self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world." no doubt stikes like a stake through Cassini's heart.
Posted by Darrell 2006-01-04 12:27||   2006-01-04 12:27|| Front Page Top

#17 For Democratic Sen. Zell Miller to go to the Republican Presidential Convention embrace THEIR nominee, denigrate his Party, its nominee and politicians in the manner he did was the act of a outlandish, dispicable turncoat. I have zero respect for him and think he should have been shot for what he did.

So would you include David Brock? How about Senator "Jumping Jim" Jeffords of VT who abandoned the Republicans to become a so-called Independent?

Posted by The Happy Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2006-01-04 12:28|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]  2006-01-04 12:28|| Front Page Top

#18 Steve White:

You said that, I didnt. Let's dont you make that clear.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:29||   2006-01-04 12:29|| Front Page Top

#19 Steve White:

correction: Lets make that clear.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:31||   2006-01-04 12:31|| Front Page Top

#20 Don't think so, kid.

I have zero respect for him and think he should have been shot for what he did.

Think Jim Jeffords should be shot, Cassini? I mean, it's only fair...
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 12:32||   2006-01-04 12:32|| Front Page Top

#21 Ah yes, the tolerant, anti-war, freedom-loving, anti-fascist, pro-choice Bushitler hater thinks old Zell should be executed for chosing his conscience.

Pro-choice only applies to killing innocent babies.
Posted by Evil Elvis 2006-01-04 12:32||   2006-01-04 12:32|| Front Page Top

#22 So the fact that he didn't play partisan hack but, instead, spoke his mind is what fucks you up, huh?

You just demonstrated one of the main reasons why you and yours are out of power and deserve to be out of power. You're 100% partisan and there's nothing in your kit other than the urge for power.

Miller was dead right, nailed you and yours to the barn door, has more sense than the lot of you, and named just a few of the names and deeds for which there is no valid defense.

You're a troll, utterly unworthy of welcome to RB, a disingenuous dilettante DU twitter / Kos Kiddie.

Fuck off.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 12:33||   2006-01-04 12:33|| Front Page Top

#23 Cassini, Without wasting too much of Freds bandwidth, here is what makes me spit at moonbats like them and feel disgust at yuo and your arguments. All I hear from these guys is Bumper sticker quotes and opposition to anything our President says. I have yet to hear anyone, you included, to offer up a plan to win this war on terror. Your right that Burtha has a plan, but surrender - the same as cut and run, is not an option. The Dems are throwing away the two party system. They have created a one party system, by default, and a group opposing the dominant, Repubs, party. Show me a plan that has winning the war on terror, Iraq, and safeguarding America from future attacks. If not please stop with the retoric.
Posted by 49 pan">49 pan  2006-01-04 12:33||   2006-01-04 12:33|| Front Page Top

#24 Senator Miller is a fine son of the great state of Georgia, a veteran of the United States Marine Corps, and an American treasure of the first order. He stands for everything the Democratic party of long ago stood for and everything truly American, not this liberal communist dogma we see coming out of Washington today. His presentation at the NRC was courageous and spot on! Senator Miller has made many, many "contributions to saving freedom." From men like Miller one can get, as Lee put it so elequently, "the correct views of life, and learn to see the world in its true light. It will enable you to live pleasantly, to do good, and, when summoned away, to leave without regret."
Posted by Besoeker 2006-01-04 12:38||   2006-01-04 12:38|| Front Page Top

#25 I think the Cassini probe just crashed into Planet Reality.

I suspect a Krazy Kos Kid (KKK) Troll, perhaps it's this cleaning lady?

DONAILIN aka Danielle Gonzalez

Posted by Tasty Maggot Sandwich 2006-01-04 12:41||   2006-01-04 12:41|| Front Page Top

#26 BTW, regards shooting Zell - you'd better think twice about that. He'd ace your narrow ass before you could figure out which end is dangerous. The same is true for most here on RB. We are not your turn the other cheek folks because we already have - and got BDS drone like you for doing so.

Next we meet, up close and personal, take great care you don't end up in the crosshairs, sonny. You need to treat that nasty BDS stain on your psyche from all your pointless dithering and DU spittle. You're fucked up and unworthy.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 12:42||   2006-01-04 12:42|| Front Page Top

#27 .com

Thats your opinion and I totally disagree with it.

Politics happens in cycles and if you believe that YOUR parties hold on POWER is permanent then you are a fool.

I could care less what you think of me really.
Fortunately you dont run this site.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:42||   2006-01-04 12:42|| Front Page Top

#28 Will this be another episode of Troll Tag Team commenting? I'd bet so.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-01-04 12:42||   2006-01-04 12:42|| Front Page Top

#29 .com

ANYTIME, ANYPLACE...
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:43||   2006-01-04 12:43|| Front Page Top

#30 Lol, how brave we are.

Here. Now. Fuckwit.

Come to Sin City and become a statistic, weenie.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 12:44||   2006-01-04 12:44|| Front Page Top

#31 .com

One more thing, once again.

Sen. Zell Miller is a dispicable turncoat the sold out his party. He should be shot for what he did.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:45||   2006-01-04 12:45|| Front Page Top

#32 "Sen. Zell Miller is a dispicable turncoat the sold out his party. He should be shot for what he did."

Tall talk from a cowardly spittle junkie. He's perfectly safe if all he faces is your ilk... unless he turns his back, of course.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 12:47||   2006-01-04 12:47|| Front Page Top

#33 Cassini, you STILL haven't answered anybody's questions here. You haven't for two days. You make a lot of noise, yet nothing comes out.
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 12:48||   2006-01-04 12:48|| Front Page Top

#34 And you keep making my point for me. Worthless partisan spew in a time of war. That clearly implies you are the one deserving of being shot.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 12:49||   2006-01-04 12:49|| Front Page Top

#35 Cassini's a fucking nitwit, not worthy. He is more than happy to call people names but disreguards any attempt to discuss issues and options. Ignore the Troll and he will wonder off to a more suitable swamp.
Posted by 49 pan">49 pan  2006-01-04 12:49||   2006-01-04 12:49|| Front Page Top

#36 How many times do you have to be told: DON’T FEED THE TROLL! There is no way any of you are going to change a kool aid drinking LLL moonbat like cassini, so stop trying. Murtha has every right to opinion, as does Pelosi, Kerry, and the rest. I happen to think the whole bunch is full of shit and that thought of them leading the country sends a shiver done my spine. They have the attention span of a five-year-old and none of the reasoning capacity. They jump from conspiracy to conspiracy like Bill Clinton jumped on interns, but at least Bill stuck with one for more than 24-hours. The funny part is they don’t even realize how ridiculous they look to most Americans. Trust me Cassini, most Americans don’t believe half of the shit coming out of the DNC.
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2006-01-04 12:51||   2006-01-04 12:51|| Front Page Top

#37 Cassini: Do you actually think President Bush has made the U.S. "safer"?

Yes!

Peace through superior firepower.

Negotiation, concession, and hesitancy are not aspects of our culture and civilization that are respected by our Islamofascist enemies. They respect only strength - and most Americans have that strength although some would rather we roll over and go butts-up for the screwing our enemies want to put to us.

Zel Miller is a hero in my book because he called the Demunists and their attitude exactly.

Cassini, your blatant hatred for the Republicans and everything they stand for is what is truly "discpicable".
Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg  2006-01-04 12:52||   2006-01-04 12:52|| Front Page Top

#38 Sen. Zell Miller is a dispicable turncoat the sold out his party. He should be shot for what he did.

That, in a nutshell, defines fanaticism, Cassini.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-01-04 12:53|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-01-04 12:53|| Front Page Top

#39 #49 Pan

I asked a perfectly logical question in post#2
and I havent seen your answer to it.

.com posted a reference Zell Millers speech at the RNC Convention.

I rebuffed him and he blew his cool and starting threatenining me....

I am so enjoying this...it's too damn funny.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 12:53||   2006-01-04 12:53|| Front Page Top

#40 Oh look everybody...Richie Cunninghams girlfriend is back.
Posted by DepotGuy 2006-01-04 12:57||   2006-01-04 12:57|| Front Page Top

#41 So, Cassini, it's all about The Party, Ya, Seig Heil. Don't do what's right, follow the party line. I don't belong to ANY Party and have voted all my life for the person I thought would do the best job and who I thought would best represent MY interests. Zell Miller is a Democrat of the old school, a man I admire. I voted for Jimmy Carter because I was tired of the Nixon legacy and was unsure of Gerold Ford. My mistake. You seem to be an advocate of "Party Over All", and if I don't agree with the direction my party is going too bad, be a good little stooge and go along. Most people can see through that and if their elected officials don't vote their constituants wishes get voted out. That is unless the powerful political machines they weild can not be fought. This goes for both Democrats and Republicans. Zell Miller was not going to abandon the people who voted him in to office, unlike Jeffords who got elected and then turned on the people who voted him in. It's obvious from your last few posts that the Party is the be-all and end-all for you. Loyality to ones constituants means nothing to you.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2006-01-04 12:57||   2006-01-04 12:57|| Front Page Top

#42 You guts need to find another chew toy. This one is preditable and repetitive (DU moonbattery). Ignore him and he'll go away.
Posted by SR-71">SR-71  2006-01-04 12:58||   2006-01-04 12:58|| Front Page Top

#43 Hey Fred:

I hope youre watching this. your regulars are going nuts. All I am doing is making statements and taking positions that just about any liberal democrat would take. And evidently they cant stand it. it drives them crazy that anyone would
disagree with them. So please dont blame me for their venom.

What I am going to do is go over to Slate Ballot Box and attempt to get the libs/dems over there to come over here to mix it up with your regulars. I think they need a big dose of dem/lib reality.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 13:00||   2006-01-04 13:00|| Front Page Top

#44 The Demcoratic Party leadership have become the turncoats. Zell Miller is an old line Democrat who values the safety of the nation before personal ambition. Instead the party has become the party of ostriches and chickens. This run away from the evils and hope they kill you last cowardice has given us 8 years of repeated muslim attacks under Clinton while he considered heady matters of state (i.e blowjobs). It gave us 4 years of Carter who allowed the modern age of the muslim fanatics to gain power. Carter who the Iranians abused like a tranvestite prison bitch, whose only course of action was to wear another sweater. I have had more than enough of the craven cowards the Democrats produce in such abundance. A Lieberman or a Miller who places the safety of the nation before personal power is a rare commodity. And what do you, Cassini, advocate? Murder.
Posted by ed 2006-01-04 13:02||   2006-01-04 13:02|| Front Page Top

#45 Deacon Blues:

Funny thing, I didnt see any Major Republicans doing for Kerry what Miller did for Bush.

As a matter of fact I can imagine what would have happened to that person if he had done so.
It wouldnt have been pretty. So all your nonpartisan bs is exactly what it is: bs.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 13:04||   2006-01-04 13:04|| Front Page Top

#46 Typical backasswards, totally inaccurate, fuckwit recitation of events. A hallmark of BDS Spittle Phreaks.

And now, in its agitated state (projection seems to be its only working defense mechanism), it thinks it will go enlist an army of BDS sufferers to rescue it. Brilliant.

I suggest the Zeroll or BaiTroll variety is the best fit, with touches of HateTroll and TurdTroll. Ban this bitch.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 13:04||   2006-01-04 13:04|| Front Page Top

#47 Cassini, Check post #23. I think I answered it.
Posted by 49 pan">49 pan  2006-01-04 13:05||   2006-01-04 13:05|| Front Page Top

#48 Could be because they saw Kerry for the useless, phony, lightweight he was. And he's my junior senator, so I have some basis for my opinion.
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 13:06||   2006-01-04 13:06|| Front Page Top

#49 This is getting ridiculous. Cassini, most liberal democrats do not advocate shooting Zell Miller. For crying out loud, most of you are against gun ownership: how are you going to “shoot” anyone? Have us do it? Not likely.

Now, stop freaking thread jacking and discuss the article about re-enlistment statistics. That’s what this board is for: discussing articles, particularly ones relating to the war on terror. Don’t believe in it? Then politely convince us that we are wrong and stop behaving like a college freshmen who’s had too much coffee.
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-04 13:10||   2006-01-04 13:10|| Front Page Top

#50 Wow, look who's making the death threats and blaming someone else for holding him accountable. How, umm, Islamist.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-01-04 13:11|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-01-04 13:11|| Front Page Top

#51 Note the total lack of response to the content, the irrefutable facts, the utterly devastating truth of Zell's speech.

All poor Troll had to fall back on was the typical partisanship the Dhimmidonks are known for, today. They will be out of power for a long time if they don't slough off the dead "leadership" and the fools of the Troll's ilk.

SM - They'd have to use spitballs, methinks.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 13:12||   2006-01-04 13:12|| Front Page Top

#52 .com: Yuck! I'd rather be shot!
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-04 13:13||   2006-01-04 13:13|| Front Page Top

#53 Cassini an idiot ppl not worth the time.
Posted by djohn66 2006-01-04 13:13||   2006-01-04 13:13|| Front Page Top

#54 Cassini, I gues the fact no Republican did for Kerry what miller did for Bush somehow proves that Republicans are all Party Line People and that somehow this proves I'm full of bullshit. Maybe there were Republicans who felt Kerry was the best choice, but didn't have the guts Zell Miller had to say so, we don't know. You have only reinforced my belief that you believe in the Party First to the exclusion of everything else.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2006-01-04 13:14||   2006-01-04 13:14|| Front Page Top

#55 "I asked a perfectly logical question in post#2 and havn't seen your answer to it."

There is no logic to the liberal/socialist position to current events. The DNC crowd exhibits all the origional thought spoken at an all night bong party in the freshman dorm at UC Berkley.
Posted by usmc6743 2006-01-04 13:14||   2006-01-04 13:14|| Front Page Top

#56 What is despicable about putting one's career on the line for one's principles, and telling people why? America isn't Party-first, that is the way of the totalitarians of all stripes, whether National Socialist (Nazi/Fascist/Ba'athist, etc) or International Communist (Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/Maoist/NorthKoreanist, etc). Or, as I read your comment, Cassini, as Democratic Party members should be. Is that really the position you intend to take?

The other aspect of the behaviour of entirely too many of those who speak for the Democratic Party is their refusal to admit that Radical Islam is at war with the West, has been for decades, and that this is a war which will be fought to the knife. I suppose it's barely understandable for someone safely ensconsed as you are, Cassini, with alert troops all around. But my mother survived the Nazi Holocaust, my father is an Israeli war hero. If we lose this war openly declared against us, I and my daughters will not be given a choice of which colour burka to wear while we cook and clean for our masters; we will only possibly have the choice of death by rusty sword or by rapine. So I take this very seriously indeed, and am very happy to have found at Rantburg men and women who understand that this isn't a game played after tea while the servants clear away the tea things.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-04 13:15||   2006-01-04 13:15|| Front Page Top

#57 .com et all

Exactly HOW MUCH$$$$ did the RNC PAY$$$
Sen. Miller for that speech at the convention?
I'm quite sure he got a nice stipend for it...
plus i wouldnt put it pass the republicans to do some dispicable stuff like that. Crooked politics is in the repub/con nature.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 13:18||   2006-01-04 13:18|| Front Page Top

#58 OMG a true believer a moonbat from hell
Posted by djohn66 2006-01-04 13:20||   2006-01-04 13:20|| Front Page Top

#59 $0.00, but worth Zell Miller's weight in gold.
Posted by ed 2006-01-04 13:21||   2006-01-04 13:21|| Front Page Top

#60 TW, you alway provide clairity. well said!
Posted by 49 pan">49 pan  2006-01-04 13:21||   2006-01-04 13:21|| Front Page Top

#61 A dollar two eighty.

And you can take that to the bank.
Posted by Evil Elvis 2006-01-04 13:21||   2006-01-04 13:21|| Front Page Top

#62 Do any of the Mods need more proof?

This Troll is not only unworthy, it is unhinged.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 13:22||   2006-01-04 13:22|| Front Page Top

#63 Noise, noise, noise.
That's why you people will always lose. You're just a bunch of fuckin noise.
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 13:22||   2006-01-04 13:22|| Front Page Top

#64 I stated earlier here that only a matter of about an hour or so before the unhinged P.O.O.P. (Party of Obscenely Obsessive Pessimists formerly known as Democrats) would jump all over President Bush for the coal-miners' deaths.

Sure enough, here it is: BTW, read the readers' comments:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/1/3/94912/78006
Blame Bush for Coal-miners's Death

Posted by The Happy Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2006-01-04 13:23|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]  2006-01-04 13:23|| Front Page Top

#65 Cassini,

I used to be a swing voter. Some time ago most of my friends and family members began to vote against the left after recognizing the emotional and irrational hatred like that you spew.

Keep it up. You are winning hearts and minds for the good guys.


Posted by usmc6743 2006-01-04 13:30||   2006-01-04 13:30|| Front Page Top

#66 Rantburgers are disgusted by Pelosi and company because the party is overly partisan and willing to gamble the safety of their nation to make political points.

Cassini proves that point when it says Zel Miller should be shot for crossing party lines over something like foreign policy. You shoot people for betraying their nation, not their party.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-01-04 13:33||   2006-01-04 13:33|| Front Page Top

#67 Bah, I let the juvenile twit divert me from the obvious lesson of the post:

A volunteer military is one of the marks of a moral nation. The libs may quack about volunteerism, but when it comes to respecting those who really volunteer, they have noting but distain if they, the libs, do not profit from it themselves.

One of the benefits of a volunteer military is the feedback loop between the citizenry and their government which becomes significant during wartime: a *TRULY* unpopular war will eventually result in an anemic military incapable of continuing the war. When one has the draft, Juvenile twits can comfort themselves in thinking that the war is being continued by force at home as well as abroad, but they cannot find such comfort when soldiers can choose whether to join, stay, or leave.

The moral ambiguity evaporates among the citizenry as well when a draft army is replaced by a volunteer one: Imagine thanking a soldier for defending his country when his reply would be, "I was drafted and I'd rather not be in jail for saying 'no'"? I would be properly ashamed, and always felt that way about the draft. No such ambiguity anymore: I can walk up to a solder, shake his or her hand, and say "thank you", and know that the recipient deserved my thanks and gratitude because of their choice. (and a juvenile twit that thinks that a man should be shot for choosing who he speaks to and who he speaks for, has no concept of that "choice" is.)

I am GLAD that we will eventually have veterans who will have served their country by choice rather than forced: if there was no vietnam era draft, we wouldn't know if Bush would have signed up for the TANG or the USAF, but we KNOW KERRY would not have joined.

Another benefit of the volunteer army is the transformation of the officer corps: a man thinks and behaves differently if the people under him were forced to serve vs. choosing to serve. see the post regarding John Whyte posted today: Officers like him are the norm now, rather than the exception.

The choice increases value: if there was indeed a combat survival suit like the one batman wore on "Batman Begins", then it would have been put into production. Sure, you have to go to war with the army you have, which is the lesson we learned from Pearl Harbor, but juvenile twits, among others, don't have a clue about the time it would REALLY take to develop adequate body and hummer armor and get it out into the field. A volunteer army is one where each member is valued enough to be taught to be the very best.

My only complaint: we don't have enough of them to handle a two-front war. We desperately need to at least double, if not triple, the infantry and armored components so as to start NOW on the necessary training so that we can win the inevitable ground war we're going to have to fight in China without using nukes. That's where I think Rummy is partly wrong: it's not a matter of the future of warfare being EITHER a low level war against terror with a max deployment of Iraqi size OR a conventional WWII-style european theatre slug-fest, but BOTH.

Generally, when April 15 rolled around, I typically complain about some of my taxes having to support welfare drones. Since 2002, I have CEASED to complain, considering that the fraction of my taxes supporting our military as sanctifying the whole, DESPITE the portion being spent on welfare drones.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-01-04 13:46|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-01-04 13:46|| Front Page Top

#68 Moderators, I don't often say this, but this Cassini person is a deliberately obnoxious child who doesn't deserve the priviledge of posting here at Rantburg. He isn't clever enough to be a good chew toy, nor thoughtful enough (or at all) to earn Fred's bandwidth. He (girls don't take the same tone when they're being obnoxious) ought to be banned, and his comments sent to the sinktrap.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-04 13:47||   2006-01-04 13:47|| Front Page Top

#69 Eww Cassini!

You're so brave! You pathetic little twit. As for politics going in circles, the Democrats will come back in power when they prove they love this country more than they love bong water.

As Ronald Reagan (a Zell Miller Democrat) once said: "I did not leave the Democratic party. It left me"

Al
Posted by Frozen Al 2006-01-04 13:47||   2006-01-04 13:47|| Front Page Top

#70 Talking about shooting political opponents harkens back to the days of Russia and the USSR, plus Nazi Germany, etc etc. I think that we have rolled around in the gutter enough in this thread.

I also heard an interview with Zell Miller that summer. There was a question on why he did not change political parties. He said that he was a Dem so long that he did not want to change, and that many of the Dems abandoned the ideals of the Party, or something like that. It must be difficult for persons of principle, like Miller and Lieberman, who have invested so much of their lives to the political process, to see what has happened to the moral compass of their party.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-01-04 13:59||   2006-01-04 13:59|| Front Page Top

#71 trailing wife:

I come in here and i say exactly what i think.
i dont use profanity, I dont call people names
and pretty much most of the time I am quite civil. i try to stay on topic, ask questions
of interest and not get too personal.

The problem here is that it drives the repubs/con regulars here nuts to hear dissenting opinions or to find out that there are people out here in american that dont buy into their right wing propaganda and political positioning.
We are called DEMOCRATS.

I am a liberal democrat and the positions and opinions i take reflect that. I find it really
odd that so many in here are so offended at what i have to say regarding current political issues
because my are pretty much typical of what liberal democrats think.

My advice to you and others of your ilk is that is that if you dont like what i write, dont read or respond to it.

Fortunately you or your narrowminded ilk dont run this board. If Fred thought that I have done
or said something so bad to be banned then I guess he would have donen it by now. But he hasnt, so thats your problem not mine.

Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 14:08||   2006-01-04 14:08|| Front Page Top

#72 Exactly HOW MUCH$$$$ did the RNC PAY$$$
Sen. Miller for that speech at the convention?
I'm quite sure he got a nice stipend for it...


Why, you think a Democrat senator will do anything for money? I agree.


Posted by BH 2006-01-04 14:13||   2006-01-04 14:13|| Front Page Top

#73 Don't get Fred started. What you've already been through will look like a picnic if he decides to rip you to shreds.
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 14:14||   2006-01-04 14:14|| Front Page Top

#74 tu:

I have had discussion with Fred before and he, you, or noboby in here has come close to ripping me to shreads...only in your imagination.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 14:18||   2006-01-04 14:18|| Front Page Top

#75 bh:

Jack Abramhoff has the same opinion about Republicans, who happen to be shaking in their boots at the thought of his guilty plea bargain agreement and his future cooperation with prosecutors.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 14:20||   2006-01-04 14:20|| Front Page Top

#76 Well, I have a vivid imagination.
Enjoy what's coming, Cassini. I will.
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 14:22||   2006-01-04 14:22|| Front Page Top

#77 If any mods are reading this, I'd like to second trailing wife's suggestion to ban Cassini.

The fact that he spouts idiocy is one thing that is irritating but tolerable. It's his statement that a member of Congress that he disagrees with should be shot for supporting a candidate of a different political party. Check out post #12.

I may be wrong, but isn't that the kind of thing that gets the Secret Service all twitchy and nervous?

Keep it up, Cassini.....you won't have to worry about .com kicking your ass. More like some guys in dark suits who don't have a sense of humor about crap like that.

BTW, I'm a Democrat, and you don't speak for me or any of the Democrats I know. I know plenty who weren't pleased with Miller, but not a single one of them EVER advocated violence against him.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-01-04 14:25|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]  2006-01-04 14:25|| Front Page Top

#78 At least TROLL has a rich fantasy life.
It's all about you isn't it TROLL. Never discuss the actuall thread topic - just jump in and pitch a grande mal BDS espisode, and you wonder why you're looked on with such contempt? And BTW, yes - ripped to shreds, not to mention the odd dozen extra corn chutes you're sportin' right now. You better up your toilet paper expense.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-01-04 14:27||   2006-01-04 14:27|| Front Page Top

#79 Cassini, you come here to poke the tigers with a stick. You do call names, you make blanket, unsupported and untrue statements, you call for people whose actions you dislike to be shot. You are childish and rude, and I'm quite certain your mother would disapprove of your behaviour, even if she agrees with your politics.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-04 14:30||   2006-01-04 14:30|| Front Page Top

#80 trailing wife, desert blone:

satire: the use of ridicule, sarcasm, irony etc.
to expose, attack or deride vices, follies etc.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 14:34||   2006-01-04 14:34|| Front Page Top

#81 TW:

Don't go there. Parentage may be a real issue.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-01-04 14:34||   2006-01-04 14:34|| Front Page Top

#82 All I am doing is making statements and taking positions that just about any liberal democrat would take.

Don't be absurd. The first thing a liberal democrat understands is that people shouldn't get executed for supporting a different party than theirs.

Your fingers should start actually learning to type in consistency with what you claim to believe. Until then you are just a hypocritical ass.

And this comes from someone who *does* believe that Bush's administration has spit on many of the fundamentals of democracy. But then again so do you.

I am a liberal democrat and the positions and opinions i take reflect that.

No, you are simply a knee-jerk supporter of the Democratic Party. Your arguments don't arise in defense of liberal democracy (in that case they'd be ideologically centered) but come rather in defense or condemnation of specific individuals. As such you are IDEOLOGICALLY IRRELEVANT, and are seen even by liberal-democratic, same-sex-marriage-supporting, torture-hating, Iraq-war-condemning, as the definition of a party stooge.
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2006-01-04 14:35||   2006-01-04 14:35|| Front Page Top

#83 #75 bh:

Jack Abramhoff has the same opinion about Republicans, who happen to be shaking in their boots at the thought of his guilty plea bargain agreement and his future cooperation with prosecutors.
Posted by: Cassini


This statement shows a level of political wishful thinking and naivity rarely seen around Rantburg.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-01-04 14:36||   2006-01-04 14:36|| Front Page Top

#84 Oooh, the tag didn't take. Good on ya, Aris.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-01-04 14:36||   2006-01-04 14:36|| Front Page Top

#85 Troll asked a question in #2.

I answered with exceptional substance in #6.

It has yet to address that or any other comment of substance.

Q.E.D. - It is a Troll.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 14:37||   2006-01-04 14:37|| Front Page Top

#86 Rex Mundi:

Go back and reread the thread. I asked a perfectly logical question in post#2.

.com responded with a speech by Zell Miller
at the rnc convention.

I responded that miller was entitled to his opinion but that i think he was a traitor to his party and should be punished just as traitors normally are.

then .com blew his cool, threatened me and just about every other repub/con regular in here just about lost their damn minds at my irreverent comment. thats their problem not mine.

rip me to shreds, you have got to be kidding.
all we have here is a difference of opinion no matter how strongly you express yourself.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 14:43||   2006-01-04 14:43|| Front Page Top

#87 Cassini, when even Aris jumps on the pile, you're done. Go home. Save yourself.
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 14:45||   2006-01-04 14:45|| Front Page Top

#88 It's a baiting, windbag, information-free bore. Sink trap it.
Posted by Darrell 2006-01-04 14:47||   2006-01-04 14:47|| Front Page Top

#89 At #12, Cassini wants to have Zell Miller shot for changing political parties.

CASSINI, GET HELP ! Changing political parties is not a crime, not even considered bad taste. It's done every day, mostly by people who have an epiffany, a bullshit breakthrough, a rude awakening.
Posted by wxjames 2006-01-04 14:48||   2006-01-04 14:48|| Front Page Top

#90 Thanks, Aris. You put it better than I did.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-01-04 14:53|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]  2006-01-04 14:53|| Front Page Top

#91 Not only are you deranged, you're a liar. The thread is there for all to see.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 14:54||   2006-01-04 14:54|| Front Page Top

#92 "information-free"

Lol, Darrell... I guessw that makes it DhimmiLite?
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 14:57||   2006-01-04 14:57|| Front Page Top

#93 Cassini, what you put down was closer to an incitement to violence than to Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal".

I'd have more respect for you if you would have just called it a "fatwa". But intellectual honesty was never your strong point, was it?

Don't even think of using satire as a defense in court, sunshine. It won't wash.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-01-04 14:57|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]  2006-01-04 14:57|| Front Page Top

#94 because my [views] are pretty much typical of what liberal democrats think.

Sweet Jesus I hope not.
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-04 14:59||   2006-01-04 14:59|| Front Page Top

#95 TROLL - Besoerker begins thread by addressing the article - which is / should be the subject of the thread. You jump in with comment #2 that has nothing to do with the article - just another one of your steaming piles. Got something substantive to say about an article? That would be refreshing. No? Then go pound sand.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-01-04 15:02||   2006-01-04 15:02|| Front Page Top

#96 RM - You're right. Amend my #85 to read:

"It has yet to address that or any other comment of substance, much less the article topic."

And Where the hell are those Slate allies it promised?

I'm gettin' hungry. Bitch-slappin' always has this effect.

Mebbe Sgt Mom would consider no-bitch-slappin' to be a sort of passive diet, heh. No idiotarians = reduced slappin' = reduced post-slappin' cravings.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 15:09||   2006-01-04 15:09|| Front Page Top

#97 Rex Mundi is right. Let's lead by example: I found the "108 percent of the target" statistic to be rather encouraging. Ditto for the info on the ative-duty divisions.
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-04 15:09||   2006-01-04 15:09|| Front Page Top

#98 DU talking points. Who here cares to listen once again to what liberal democrats think? Why respond to the same fever dreams and "known facts" yet again? Until he brings something new to the discussion, ignore the troll and he will go away.
Posted by SR-71">SR-71  2006-01-04 15:11||   2006-01-04 15:11|| Front Page Top

#99 .com, nah, it's more like his buddies would be on Salon than Slate. He's probably stupid enough to pay for a scrip to it, too, instead of getting the day pass while surfing another site. Wotta maroon!
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-01-04 15:20|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]  2006-01-04 15:20|| Front Page Top

#100 Tora Bore
Posted by Darrell 2006-01-04 15:21||   2006-01-04 15:21|| Front Page Top

#101 What's even more encouraging is that the combat divisions are at 137% of reenlistment goals.
Posted by ed 2006-01-04 15:21||   2006-01-04 15:21|| Front Page Top

#102 #94 because my [views] are pretty much typical of what liberal democrats think.

Sweet Jesus I hope not.

Now you're starting to understand the extent of the problem.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-01-04 15:22||   2006-01-04 15:22|| Front Page Top

#103 Rather than realize that he's in the vast left wing minority, and ponder why his position is so unpopular, the jerk picks a broad fight which further isolates him. I suppose that is a part of the democrat strategy, because they seem to repeat the tactic endlessly. It's a left wing tail spin. The only way out is to execute a Zell Miller move. I'm expecting Ed Koch to do one soon.
Posted by wxjames 2006-01-04 15:31||   2006-01-04 15:31|| Front Page Top

#104 At #12, Cassini wants to have Zell Miller shot for changing political parties.

CASSINI, GET HELP ! Changing political parties is not a crime, not even considered bad taste. It's done every day, mostly by people who have an epiffany, a bullshit breakthrough, a rude awakening.


Like someone said yesterday:

A Republican is a former Demi-donk who's been mugged!
Posted by BA 2006-01-04 15:32||   2006-01-04 15:32|| Front Page Top

#105 because my [views] are pretty much typical of what liberal democrats think.

That may be what the Democrats think, but there isn't that much liberal left about them any more. It's just another faction.
Posted by Abspembleable Snowspemble 2006-01-04 15:32||   2006-01-04 15:32|| Front Page Top

#106 Good retention figures. It helps to have a Commander-in-Chief that believes in them and that they in turn can believe in.
Posted by eLarson 2006-01-04 15:33|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2006-01-04 15:33|| Front Page Top

#107 Here's a big prediction: IF Hillary runs in '08, it'll be as an independent.
Posted by Abspembleable Snowspemble 2006-01-04 15:34||   2006-01-04 15:34|| Front Page Top

#108 It is absolutely hillarious that you repub/con
geniuses in here cant figure out that "ought to be shot" or "should be shot" is a "figure of speech" or slang.

hey .com

you still want a "showdown in sin city" where if i come up there i'll be a "statistic"

you sound just like George W. Bush: bin laden wanted dead or alive...

I'm scared...

oh my god. stop it...to damn funny..rotflmao
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 16:06||   2006-01-04 16:06|| Front Page Top

#109 Run along, child. We've grown tired of you...
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-04 16:08||   2006-01-04 16:08|| Front Page Top

#110 Sure, pussyboy! I haven't had a decent dustup in awhile - been about a year, now.

Up? You in fucking Mexico? Lol.

You couldn't cut it as Left Angle then trolled into a new nym. You're a treasure, awright.

C'mon "up" KKK. I'm here all the time, sonny.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 16:14||   2006-01-04 16:14|| Front Page Top

#111 I can't believe I read this whole mess.

How'bout them reenlistment rates? Some taking the oths in the field! That is wanting to get the job done! Now to the trolls, either contribute to getting the job done or get the #$%^ outta the way!
Posted by TomAnon 2006-01-04 16:23||   2006-01-04 16:23|| Front Page Top

#112 I can't believe I read this whole mess.

How'bout them reenlistment rates? Some taking the oaths in the field! That is commitment to success! That is wanting to get the job done! Now to those who say they support the troops, either contribute to getting the job done or get the #$%^ outta the way!
Posted by TomAnon 2006-01-04 16:25||   2006-01-04 16:25|| Front Page Top

#113 Wow. Rantburg gone wild. We now have regulars advocating violence against commenters. Fred, you're letting your site devolve into something ugly.

Cool it .com
Posted by TT 2006-01-04 16:26||   2006-01-04 16:26|| Front Page Top

#114 Holy crap! This is one long thread. I don't have all day to read it all and since Cassini/Left Angle is involved it isn't worth the time. Same 'ol blah, blah, blah. It's so old. Bash Bush. Bash repubs/cons. No solutions. Plenty of other good reads on the site tho.
Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2006-01-04 16:29||   2006-01-04 16:29|| Front Page Top

#115 TT:

Actually, I think Fred is rather enjoying this.
Its a great way to entertain yourself during the
workday. I was showing this thread to a couple of
my buddies here and we were all cracking up.
Posted by Cassini 2006-01-04 16:36||   2006-01-04 16:36|| Front Page Top

#116 It is absolutely hillarious that you repub/con
geniuses in here cant figure out that "ought to be shot" or "should be shot" is a "figure of speech" or slang.


Kid, if you tell me that you’re selling apples, why should I assume you’re selling oranges? You said it, you defended saying it, now either apologize for advocating the murder of a United States Senator or stick by your statement.

Why shouldn’t I take you literally, anyhow? As I mentioned before, this is a board dedicated to the discussion of the war on terror. Either say what you mean or don’t say anything at all.
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-04 16:40||   2006-01-04 16:40|| Front Page Top

#117 Cassini, there's a reason why Fred didn't make .com a moderator here. Keep that in mind.
Posted by TT 2006-01-04 16:44||   2006-01-04 16:44|| Front Page Top

#118 The article proves, once again, RC's Good News Law. And that's why Left Angle / Cassini worked so hard to hijack it. It is excellent news and a shock only to the Dhimmidonk trolls.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 16:45||   2006-01-04 16:45|| Front Page Top

#119 Anyone require British diplomacy?
Posted by Howard UK 2006-01-04 16:50||   2006-01-04 16:50|| Front Page Top

#120 "More than 4,000 soldiers from Outen's 3rd Infantry Division have re-enlisted in the past year, including 117 who raised their hands together at a mass ceremony north of Baghdad in April. The division, whose tanks led the U.S. invasion in 2003, was the first to serve two tours in Iraq."

Thank You! And God Bless Everyone of You!
Posted by TomAnon 2006-01-04 16:54||   2006-01-04 16:54|| Front Page Top

#121 God freeking damn him to hell and Ban this usless bandwidth stealling troll.
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2006-01-04 16:59||   2006-01-04 16:59|| Front Page Top

#122 Anyone require British diplomacy?

So long as you handle the situation like Vinnie Jones would.
Posted by Secret Master 2006-01-04 17:01||   2006-01-04 17:01|| Front Page Top

#123 Aye. Rip his ears orf.
Posted by Howard UK 2006-01-04 17:09||   2006-01-04 17:09|| Front Page Top

#124 "why Fred didn't make .com a moderator"

Lol - that's easy: Fred's one smart sumbitch, with undeniable raw unbridled kickass intelligence - as his commentary demonstrates so clearly. He also possesses patience and tolerance. I do not have those genes, though I had been good for quite a long time, before today.

S'okay. Unlike Left Angle / Cassini, I know my place. I've worked hard to keep my inner thug under control all my life. Kicking the shit out of fools is easy - especially since the troll presumes I'm like him, a cheesedick hand-wringer. My bad for joining the slapfest.

BTW, Howard, ears come off rather easily. Surprisingly so, once you know how, heh.

Apologies, Fred. Done here.
Posted by .com 2006-01-04 17:23||   2006-01-04 17:23|| Front Page Top

#125 TT bite me. Cassini, the only "buddies " you showed it to were your girlfriends, left and right palms. What a waste of bandwidth. Cassini/LA/NMM trolls are easy to spot, given the first refutation by evidence, they slink to talking point 2....

Troll, seeing the stock .com had in his online store...I'd rethink a meeting in person. You were warned ;-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-01-04 20:54||   2006-01-04 20:54|| Front Page Top

#126 Damn - I use to see a 100+ post and automatically assume the one-who-will-not-be-named was posturing. We may have a new pretender to the throne.

Posted by Doc8404 2006-01-04 21:00||   2006-01-04 21:00|| Front Page Top

#127 Cassini
WTF does any of your rant have anything to do with the topic at hand?
That being --- US Soldiers in Iraq are re-upping by the thousands..

You can't deal with that so you start a fricking fight over people like that drowner of a young girl from Martha's Vineyard.

Your attempt at subject deflection with putrid heros is really disgusting. Fits a low life troll like yourself.

Posted by 3dc 2006-01-04 23:47||   2006-01-04 23:47|| Front Page Top

#128 A lot of folks here get worked up by the verbal violence, but I tend to look at it differently. How does a blog ecosystem keep from turning into a zero information content swamp? How many here followed Fucked Company? Last time I looked at it, it was just a bunch of third rate trolls trolling one another for giggles. A web forum has to have defenses, and they can't all be code.
Posted by 11A5S 2006-01-04 23:56||   2006-01-04 23:56|| Front Page Top

#129 Sorry, I screwed up my tags.
Posted by 11A5S 2006-01-04 23:56||   2006-01-04 23:56|| Front Page Top

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