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2005-12-31 Southeast Asia

3,000 Filippino troops killed fighting commies, Islamists in 2005

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-12-31 13:10|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Poor training, poor leadership, poor discipline, and a corrupt central government that has half a heart in the fight [if that much]. Any surprise?

Posted by Thromosh Angavins6428 2005-12-31 14:31|| 2005-12-31 14:31|| Front Page Top

#2 3000 is a surprise....pretty hard to lose that many without any appreciable successes

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-31 14:52|| 2005-12-31 14:52|| Front Page Top

#3 Fatalities included 723 soldiers, 1,810 communist rebels, 171 Abu Sayyaf militants and 118 members of the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-12-31 17:52|| 2005-12-31 17:52|| Front Page Top

#4 my bad

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-31 17:54|| 2005-12-31 17:54|| Front Page Top

#5 723 soldiers in one year?.

Here are 2003 figures from Jammu and Kashmir (from an interview with former J+K Governor Gary Saxena)

He also claims that more then 70,000 people have been killed in Kashmir.

I do not know who gave him those figures. According to statistics that were made available to me, 13,600 people lost their lives in the last 14 years. Of these 10,000 were killed/massacred by terrorists in various incidents of violence. Rest 3,600 lost their lives in crossfire between the security forces and the terrorists. I am telling you these figures because each body was identified.

I must tell you that the security forces lost 3,600 personnel and killed over 16,700 terrorists since 1989. Seventy per cent of these were foreigners.

What kinds of arms and ammunition have been seized during the operations?

The Indian Army and paramilitary forces have seized over 25,000 Kalashnikovs, 325 sniper rifles, 1,000 machines guns, 1,800 rocket propelled grenade launchers, 4,000 rocket launchers, 10,000 land mines, 50,000 hand grenades, 30 tonnes of explosives, 7.5 tonnes of RDX, 10,000 revolver pistols and 4,000 wireless sets.

This speaks about the kind of assistance terrorists groups have been getting from Inter Services Intelligence.

Posted by john 2005-12-31 19:02|| 2005-12-31 19:02|| Front Page Top

#6 The Phillipines obviously needs to beef up its COIN training. Too many casualties (and police were not included) for the number of enemy dead.

Posted by john 2005-12-31 19:17|| 2005-12-31 19:17|| Front Page Top

#7 The AFP has a significant training program with the US. From LRC, SEALS, SF, and Marines they get extreemly high quality training from America's finest. Their senior leaders are lethargic, corrupt, and more interested in politics than fighting this war they have. as the young officers grow into senior leaders they just might figure out how to win this.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2005-12-31 21:20|| 2005-12-31 21:20|| Front Page Top

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