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2005-10-16 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Clomoque Phaing2354 2005-10-16 16:17|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 He also mentions the Juan Cole theory that the memo is fake, possibly Iranian. Cole has not impressed me and he lets his political agenda impede whatever scholarly benefit he brings to the table, but has anybody seen Cole's point addressed.

Ignatius seems to imply we're losing hearts and minds in Iraq. We'll see. I think Iraqi and American expectations were unrealistic at the beginning, but as time passes and political steps are taken in Iraq along with a drawdown of our forces outside of Anbar Province it's hard to see how we're losing.

Posted by JAB 2005-10-16 17:15|| 2005-10-16 17:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Rarely in wartime is it possible to read over the shoulder of the enemy and discover his most intimate thoughts about the battle.

wtf does this guy think we pay all those guys at Ft. Meade to do all day? That's what we did to the Germans, the Japanese and the Ruskies. That's one reason why our casualties are low historically.

Is this real? is it fake from Tehran? Is it fake from Langley? Beats the heck out of me. Civilians will probably know for sure in 20-40 years.

And why would anybody bother wasting time addressing the points raised by a fifth columnist like Cole. That guy is a certifiable moonbat and deeper in the pockets of the islamofascists than Kofi Anan.

Posted by Ebbomoter Choger3967 2005-10-16 17:23|| 2005-10-16 17:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Just checked Cole's blog. Turns out he retracted much of the linguistic criticism of the letter but still suspects that it is US psyops. After all, Al Queda in Iraq agrees. Ignatius should not have wasted his time quoting this guy. His idea of studying our enemy is shilling for them.

Posted by JAB 2005-10-16 17:24|| 2005-10-16 17:24|| Front Page Top

#4 It absolutely is psyops. Every press release in wartime is psyops, just as every MSM story is psyops. The questions are for which side? black or white?

Posted by Ebbomoter Choger3967 2005-10-16 17:28|| 2005-10-16 17:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Confusing, is it not? Yet with this capture we have a significant advantage over telling the current status of the al-Qaeda leadership. If we exploit the opportunity by making some sort of psyops gesture to weaken his position significantly enough, we may be able to get al-Qaeda to send in a less-capable commander. Still, what are we going to do?

Posted by OnlySaneAnonymouseLeft">OnlySaneAnonymouseLeft 2005-10-16 18:36|| deleted]">[deleted] 2005-10-16 18:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Releasing it definitely was phyops regardless of where it came from and who wrote it. I suspect it's real, but don't really care because I think it weakens the enemy regardless.

Posted by JAB 2005-10-16 21:22|| 2005-10-16 21:22|| Front Page Top

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