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2005-09-27 Afghanistan/South Asia

US team to discuss border fencing with Pakistan

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Posted by Oztralian [AKA] God Save The World 2005-09-27 08:11|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Fencing in Israel, along the Mexican border, and now in Pakland. Time to invest in fencing futures. One each Halliburton Fencing and Storm Door Division coming right up!

Posted by Elmereng Pheating4146 2005-09-27 09:13|| 2005-09-27 09:13|| Front Page Top

#2 advance, advance, LUNGE.

Retreat, retreat. Parry, LUNGE.

Retreat.

Advance, Advance, parry LUNGE.

Your fencing is completed, gentlemen, take a break.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-09-27 09:41|| 2005-09-27 09:41|| Front Page Top

#3 ..along the Mexican border,..

Not even.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-09-27 10:38|| 2005-09-27 10:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Remember that in a region as mountainous as that, where the only major route is the Khyber pass, fencing only needs to be sporadic, to cover the blind spots between outposts. Out of a 1400-mile border, perhaps 100 miles would need fencing.

Of this, really inexpensive fencing like concertina wire would do for the bulk. Ten stacked rolls of concertina would be almost impassable to all but the most determined, would take them several dangerous hours to penetrate, and would be very obvious if tampered with. Even those who could cross it could not bring any serious amount of equipment or supplies with them.

It proved very effective against the Viet Cong.

Such fencing could for the most part be installed in under a month.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-09-27 10:48|| 2005-09-27 10:48|| Front Page Top

#5 An "impenetrable" wall of concertina wire can be cut in seconds with a Bangalore torpedo. In other words, a wall of concertian wire has no value if you don't have troops at a reasonable distance.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-09-27 11:19|| 2005-09-27 11:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Libhawk, no fair -- I wasn't expecting that! Does bring back memories, though. :-D

Posted by trailing wife 2005-09-27 13:15|| 2005-09-27 13:15|| Front Page Top

#7 Of this, really inexpensive fencing like concertina wire would do for the bulk. Ten stacked rolls of concertina would be almost impassable to all but the most determined, would take them several dangerous hours to penetrate, and would be very obvious if tampered with. Even those who could cross it could not bring any serious amount of equipment or supplies with them.

Moose, a riddle inside a mystery wrapped in an enigma. ;)

/and I can find the refrigerator in the pitch black dead of night.

Posted by Sapper Dog 2005-09-27 13:45|| 2005-09-27 13:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Any bangalore torpedo would attract so much attention that it would defeat the purpose. This border has outposts on much of the high terrain, and the mountains themselves are obscenely difficult to cross. About the only way through are on small goat trails, passes and draws.

So it is not unreasonable to assume that the passable routes are very limited indeed. Note the major bridges on this map, and the terrain:

http://tinyurl.com/dgrjb

Remember also, that the purpose of this fence is not to utterly stop entry and exit from the country. It is to greatly slow down transfer, and to severely inhibit arms flow across the border. This is why a single solution won't do. There is just too much variation. However, as I said before, much of the border could really be made impassable with stacked concertina wire.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-09-27 14:15|| 2005-09-27 14:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Afghanistan would oppose this fencing since there is no border.

The expiry of the Durand line treaty means that Pak is in occupation of what was historically Afghan territory.

Posted by john 2005-09-27 17:17|| 2005-09-27 17:17|| Front Page Top

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