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2005-09-21 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel says it sets international border with Gaza
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Posted by ed 2005-09-21 09:31|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "Control over sea lanes and airspace" is very mild and no real burden if you wish to conduct ordinary commerce. It is intolerable only if you wish to import weapons and people with outstanding warrants and ill intent.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-09-21 11:51||   2005-09-21 11:51|| Front Page Top

#2 The real issue is retaliation for attacks. If Gaza is another country, then Israel has the right to defend itself and attacks constitute (arguably) a declaration of war.

OTOH, if Israel is an occupier, it has international / treaty obligations that restrict it's actions.
Posted by lotp 2005-09-21 14:21||   2005-09-21 14:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Under the Oslo agreement, IIRC, Israel is obligated to provide an amount of electric power and water for the Paleos in Gaza. So if the Paleos become a belligerant state, when could Israel say that, due to the PA falling into anarchy, that there is no authority in Gaza no' mo', and that Oslo does not apply and the electricity and water are being shut off. THAT will get someone's attention.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2005-09-21 16:42||   2005-09-21 16:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Gosh! You don't think that the Palestinians are planning on doing anything that might provoke a war, do you? I thought they were going to "nation build" for a while....
Posted by Secret Master 2005-09-21 16:44||   2005-09-21 16:44|| Front Page Top

#5 

Here is the text of the original Oslo agreement.

I found Article II, Section B.24 deals with electricity. Basically, the PA buys it from Israel, and other details, yada^3.

Article II, Section B.31 concerns water and sewage. The PA is responsible for their water sources. Of course they over pumped and the wells went saline. They buy water from Israel.

It seems to me that if there is no Palestinian Authority, then there is nobody to have an agreement with, and Oslo is null and void.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2005-09-21 17:09||   2005-09-21 17:09|| Front Page Top

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