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2005-08-29 Iraq-Jordan
Iraq constitution draft ready
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Posted by Fred 2005-08-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ...the changes failed to bring the Sunnis on board.

Short of putting 'em back in charge, nothing would have.
Posted by PBMcL 2005-08-29 01:17||   2005-08-29 01:17|| Front Page Top

#2 It is difficult to overestimate the Iraqu Sunni Arabs' inability to comprehend the commonly accepted reality or their willingness to delude themselves. They think themselves in an alternate reality in which they are important and have control of the situation. If they persist in their current attitudes, there will be many fewer of them in the future.
Posted by RWV 2005-08-29 01:25||   2005-08-29 01:25|| Front Page Top

#3 I look forward to the run up to Oct 15 where the Baathists say 'vote no' and the islamists say 'if you vote, we'll kill you'.

Good battling slogans.
Posted by mhw 2005-08-29 09:16||   2005-08-29 09:16|| Front Page Top

#4 The comparison between the Iraqi Sunnis post-Saddam and the white South Africans post-Apartheid is apt. We never would have lifted a finger to help whites in SA if they had refused to participate in the process, imported foreign terrorists and setup an 'insurgency' in hopes of returning to power. Screw them.
Posted by JAB 2005-08-29 09:42||   2005-08-29 09:42|| Front Page Top

#5 â€œThe draft constitution is ready and will be presented to the Iraqi people, who are known for their intelligence..."

Posted by gromgoru 2005-08-29 09:49||   2005-08-29 09:49|| Front Page Top

#6 remember, a 2/3 no vote in just 3 provinces, in the referendum, means new elections for a new parliament to draft another constitution.

Either the constitution passes - which means the Sunnis (assuming they vote) are NOT following their "leaders"

OR

the constitution loses, and there are new election, in which SCIRI will probably do less well.

Neither is a disaster, from the US point of view. Lets hope we can have the wisdom to see that, and the resolve to see this through.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-08-29 10:12||   2005-08-29 10:12|| Front Page Top

#7 I lifted this off the Right Wing News website and I plan to use it every time some lefty make the Vietnam/Iraq comparison:
"Iraq is just like Vietnam except:
We occupy Hanoi.
We've captured Ho Chi Minh.
The North Vietnamese have just held
a free and democratic election.
The North Vietnamese are working on
a new constitution.
Yes, Iraq is just like Vietnam."

I would add that during this process not a single shot was fired between the three "opposing" factions. By any standard that is what is called Democracy. Keep up the good work!
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2005-08-29 10:43||   2005-08-29 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Still, at least there's one part of the Constitution they can all agree on: NO JEWS ALLOWED.
Posted by Unuting Thomong2628 2005-08-29 13:04||   2005-08-29 13:04|| Front Page Top

#9 Still, at least there's one part of the Constitution they can all agree on: NO JEWS ALLOWED.

Well, no returning Iraqi Jews, anyway. There is still a very small indigenous Jewish population, as I recall.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-08-29 15:24||   2005-08-29 15:24|| Front Page Top

#10 The allanists states need to be warned about the slim (but nonzero) chance of spontaneous Jew appearance.
Posted by Shipman 2005-08-29 15:59||   2005-08-29 15:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Yes, we control the weak force through a series of stepped long term contracts on anti-matter delivery. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHA
Posted by Quantum Jew 2005-08-29 16:09||   2005-08-29 16:09|| Front Page Top

#12 ive met Iraqi Jews. A close relation of mine once dated an Iraqi Jew. AFAICT, few to none of the Iraqi Jews living in the US or Israel want to move back to Iraq. So that whole argument was kinda silly.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-08-29 16:43||   2005-08-29 16:43|| Front Page Top

#13 And we all know the US started the war because Iraq was going to start denominating its Mesons in Euros rather than Dollars.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-08-29 16:54||   2005-08-29 16:54|| Front Page Top

#14 And here I thought a Boson was a Navy rating...
Posted by mojo">mojo  2005-08-29 17:24||   2005-08-29 17:24|| Front Page Top

#15 And here I thought a Boson was a Navy rating...
Posted by mojo">mojo  2005-08-29 17:24||   2005-08-29 17:24|| Front Page Top

#16 Of course, liberalhawk. Most non-Jewish Iraqis probably won't go beack either. That's what happens in diasporas. But then why did the Iraqis feel the need to refute right of return in the draft of their Constitution only to the Jews?
Posted by trailing wife 2005-08-29 19:40||   2005-08-29 19:40|| Front Page Top

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