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2005-08-21 Britain

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Posted by Captain America 2005-08-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I'm with you, Dr Steve. Seems the TimesOnline is very similar to the NYT in this regard. The editor who put this piece in the hopper and the copper who confirmed should be polishing prison plumbing with toothbrushes - or job hunting at the very least.

Posted by .com 2005-08-21 01:47|| 2005-08-21 01:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Shows how bad there are those whom want west to lose this struggle against the Fascists. Tar and Feathers and a sharp rail. In the UK they do have laws to toss them both in jail that said, I am sure they will not.

On a lighter note I thought perhaps Galloway was to give a speech and had been arrested.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-08-21 02:02|| 2005-08-21 02:02|| Front Page Top

#3 I wonder if they planned their attack around Gorgeous George's schedule.

Posted by anonymous2u 2005-08-21 02:46|| 2005-08-21 02:46|| Front Page Top

#4 supergrass
?

Posted by Mona Gorilla 2005-08-21 02:49|| 2005-08-21 02:49|| Front Page Top

#5 MG, Supergrass is British slang for "police informant". It can refer to a type of drug and there's also a rock band by that name.

Posted by GK 2005-08-21 02:55|| 2005-08-21 02:55|| Front Page Top

#6 I was thinking Hybrid Bermuda or Tiff / Fescue, myself.

Posted by .com 2005-08-21 03:07|| 2005-08-21 03:07|| Front Page Top

#7 Leave it to a desert denizen to know about hardy supergrasses.

Posted by GK 2005-08-21 03:13|| 2005-08-21 03:13|| Front Page Top

#8 I wonder if "supergrass" has been mowed by the Jihad lawn mower.

Posted by Captain America 2005-08-21 09:14|| 2005-08-21 09:14|| Front Page Top

#9 And so we tell everyone so that al-Q can change their methods and codes. Brits are famous for this.

The British are also (or were?) masters in desinformation.

Before changing the codes, al-Q will probably try to know who the informant is and start wondering what is the extent of the dammage. Who's to be trusted and who's not.
To instill doubts in the enemies' mind can be a powerful weapon.

Posted by SwissTex 2005-08-21 10:38|| 2005-08-21 10:38|| Front Page Top

#10 And so we tell everyone so that al-Q can change their methods and codes. Brits are famous for this.

The British are also (or were?) masters in desinformation.

Before changing the codes, al-Q will probably try to know who the informant is and start wondering what is the extent of the dammage. Who's to be trusted and who's not.
To instill doubts in the enemies' mind can be a powerful weapon.

Posted by SwissTex 2005-08-21 10:38|| 2005-08-21 10:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Sorry, I thought my first attempt was timed out.

Posted by SwissTex 2005-08-21 10:41|| 2005-08-21 10:41|| Front Page Top

#12 Remind me again why when islamists are trying their hardest to kill thousands of Brits in mega attacks (truck bombings of football stadiums, ricin and cyanide attacks, now sarin in the underground and Parliament), the British leaders can't even make up their minds to deport those calling for mass murder? Darwin is a strict master and societies that don't have the will to survive will become just a footnote in history books.

Posted by ed 2005-08-21 11:02|| 2005-08-21 11:02|| Front Page Top

#13 changing the codes...

Are they truly using codes? Or codes and encryption? Like everyone else, they are probably using commercial-off-the-shelf encryption like PGP. If I understand how those work, every session generates new keys. Thus the concern that Al-Qaeda will change their encryption is moot. If they are then using actual code books, then the concern is valid. If I were Al-Qaeda, I would use PGP to encrypt/decrypt, then use off-the-shelf paperback books or even static web pages to encode/decode the words. A decrypted message may read, for example: 1 78 56 33 21 45 99 56. The numbers refer to particular words on a particular page of a particular book which breaks to "Osama has camel breath. Please send infidel listerine". If you don't know the book or page, good luck breaking the code. The real story is probably deeper and more interesting than I can imagine. Perhaps it will be printed someday.

Posted by Zpaz 2005-08-21 12:44|| 2005-08-21 12:44|| Front Page Top

#14 #3 I wonder if they planned their attack around Gorgeous George's schedule.
Posted by anonymous2u 2005-08-21 02:46

Anonymous: George Galloway is THE GAS ATTACK!

Posted by The Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2005-08-21 12:45|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com] 2005-08-21 12:45|| Front Page Top

#15 I think the code will be substitution of words that would set all the red lights flashing with innocous words. So rather than 'bomb', 'book' would be used and 'open the book' would mean 'detonate the bomb'.

This smacks of disinformation to me. Paranioa is a powerfull weapon against terrorist organizations and the Brits have had 25 years of practice against the IRA. BTW, supergrass means someone who is informing against the highest levels of an organizations.

Posted by phil_b 2005-08-21 17:08|| 2005-08-21 17:08|| Front Page Top

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