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2005-08-16 Europe

Lawyers for Accused Moroccan Eye Acquittal

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Posted by Steve White 2005-08-16 00:15|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Germany and Germans no longer are particiapnts in the ant-fascist struggle against al-Qaida and it's supporters. Merkel supports Gerhard's stance on no threat of military action against the Mad Mullahs as of yesterday. The terrorist will walk and continue to be on the dole in Germany.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-08-16 01:32|| 2005-08-16 01:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Care to guess where these people get the money to continue to hire (presumably top-notch) lawyers to continually appeal cases?

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-08-16 05:12|| 2005-08-16 05:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Why from the German government (German workers pocketbooks) of course.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-08-16 05:16|| 2005-08-16 05:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Quite.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-08-16 05:23|| 2005-08-16 05:23|| Front Page Top

#5 All this arsing about does is get the average Joe thinking that the courts are not going to be the ones to sort out this mess. It makes any kind of backlash against innocents more likely and much more dangerous if/when it does happen.

It takes a looong time before people turn their backs on the courts, but with palavers like this going on (and it's the same in the UK), they will.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-08-16 06:18|| 2005-08-16 06:18|| Front Page Top

#6 Treating these Fascists as regular criminals doesn't work. The law courts of most countries have shown that they willfully don't get what is at stake. The welfare state is incapable of defending it's self it instead supports the lifestyle of these Fascists so they can spread their poison without having to provide their own support. The Welfare State happily provide a lawyer to defend them when they violate the law.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-08-16 14:25|| 2005-08-16 14:25|| Front Page Top

#7 SPoD

I'm anything but happy about Merkel's statement re Iran but it's a campaign strategic one.

Schroeder won the last elections on exactly two issues: Iraq/Bush bashing and the floods.

It's a rainy summer but no floods expected until September.
Schroeder started the Iran thing but he won't get far with it if the opposition says, war is no option.

After the elections, this was, of course, "taken out of context" and was meant to read: "War is not an option at this point".

But yes, I'm not optimistic enough to see a change of opinion in the German public very soon. This will have to come gradually, and will - unfortunately - be sped up by shit happening.

The problem with Motassedeq is that he wouldn't fare any worse at a regular U.S. courts that upholds the current legal standards for "regular criminal cases".

Thee is a reason you don't submit suspected terrorists to the regular U.S. legal system.

If the court cannot prove that Motassedeq knew about the plans, it's in dubio pro reo. Would not be different in the U.S.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-08-16 15:30|| 2005-08-16 15:30|| Front Page Top

#8 I should add that political opinions are shifting already when it comes to the treatment of radical islamists.

Both Schily (SPD) and Beckstein (CSU) favor internment if they cannot be removed from Gwerman soil.

And many can (and will) of course be removed from German soil. The gloves will come off.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-08-16 15:34|| 2005-08-16 15:34|| Front Page Top

#9 But TGA doing anything will violate the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union and it will be tied up in court for years. First the German courts then EU court.

I am sorry I don't share your understandable optimistic view of what Merkel will do if she is elected. I am seeing a left, left, neo communist grand coalition. A coalition that will protect and acquiesce to the religious Fascists.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-08-16 16:13|| 2005-08-16 16:13|| Front Page Top

#10 No SPoD, the "Linkspartei" is overhyped, they won't get those 12% of the predicted votes.

The campaign has only started and despite some very heavy stuff from Stoiber the CDU/CSU is holding firm now and will probably climb back.

A CDU/CSU coalition with the FDP liberals remains the most likely outcome. The Linkspartei is a party of empty bags. They have nothing to offer.

I would have preferred Stoiber over Merkel but as Rumsfeld said: You go to war with the army you have.

A "dark red" coalition would be completely useless since this would result in a blockade by the Bundesrat (Upper House). And people know that.

As for the Charter of European rights: Italy is expelling turbans, the UK is expelling turbans and Germany is doing it, too.

We'll just kick more turbans out in the future.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-08-16 16:33|| 2005-08-16 16:33|| Front Page Top

#11 Accused Moroccan Eye ?

"What'd eye do?"

Posted by BigEd 2005-08-16 16:46|| 2005-08-16 16:46|| Front Page Top

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