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2005-08-07 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Steve White 2005-08-07 00:43|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Bet the Euros never saw that coming, did they?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-08-07 11:25|| http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com] 2005-08-07 11:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Y'know, I do wonder about that... Sometimes Straw & Co seem at least that stupid. He, in particular, has amazed me, at times, with his utterly moronic statements, topping Blair by miles in the socialist / Moonbat toady high jump games. Blair should've dumped him at the last election - wait, can he dump him? Is Blair "in control" of who is in his "cabinet"? Or is he stuck with a rotating collection of party-selected Moonbats? If so, another real-world example of how that squirrelly-assed system prevents progress.

Tony (UK), if you're still with us, can you clarify for me?

Posted by .com 2005-08-07 11:47|| 2005-08-07 11:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Been away for a week .com, but I'll do my best :)

The PM can do more or less what he likes with his cabinet, but he still has to keep the party happy, which can lead to him putting some real 'tards in place (one Peter Hain comes to mind, and several of his 'token' appointments). Teflon Tony is very good at confounding the party though and there's really noone who can take his place. Brown is supposed to be taking over once TT steps down (the infamous restaurant agreement), but his economic 'miracle' is unravelling faster than a cheap jumper, and his standing is not as high as it was. Straw is known as a Rottweiler, but a lot of the legislation they want to push through is stymied by EU abominations such as the 'Human Rights Act', so he's a bit neutered really.

RBers should always remember that this Labour government is very definitely socialist, with all that entails, even with all Blairs' machinations to give it a veneer of respectability.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-08-07 12:16|| 2005-08-07 12:16|| Front Page Top

#4 O'k. Its time for US/Israeli Nuke proposal.

Posted by gromgoru 2005-08-07 12:34|| 2005-08-07 12:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Straw a Rottweiler? I'm working on wrapping my mind 'round that one, heh. Statements he's made in this EU3 dance have been, well, simply vapid Pollyanna silliness. Maybe that's just his assigned role... But I've been astonished by several of his public pronouncements on Iran, Iraq, NATO, and the EU Constitution, too. Hmmm. I had come to see him as loonier than "TT" by a good margin - and seeming to act semi-autonomously - now I'll have to go back, re-read, and see where I missed the boat on Straw. Hmmm. Thx, I appreciate the take from up close!

Posted by .com 2005-08-07 13:31|| 2005-08-07 13:31|| Front Page Top

#6 Straw's behaved re: MM's as if they have some polaroids of him doing unseemly acts

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-08-07 13:43|| 2005-08-07 13:43|| Front Page Top

#7 This new Iranian president is a hardcore that is way over the top. The Euro's have been doing all they can to keep these worthless talks going offering anything and everthing. The old Iranian pres was willing to buy time and play the footsy game the Euro's love so. This guy just aint with that and dont mind saying so. I saw a article the other day were at a press conference a reporter asked him about the nuke program he simple answered "what concern is it of yours" then the other reporters followed all got the same none of your buisness type answers. No PR at all. I gotta laugh I dont blame him but it is making our job a hell of a lot more easy. The EU this time are just going to look like the PUNKS they are after the Iranians punk them out at these negotiations. From what I have read on this last proposal after the one with all the benefit packages was turned down was that the Euro's countered with a just garantee to us that the nuke program will not be used for weapons purposes & it looks like the Iranian pres again denined.

What you going to do now EU?

Posted by C-Low 2005-08-07 14:39|| 2005-08-07 14:39|| Front Page Top

#8 So what country is providing all the required builing supplies and engeneering support to build a plant that can produce U235? We should go after that country with trade sanctions and destroy them and the businesses that are supporting this.

Posted by 49 pan">49 pan 2005-08-07 15:17|| 2005-08-07 15:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Straw was always seen as 'the hard man' for when Blair needed things done. In this palaver he's as much use as a chocolate teapot - perhaps they have videos as well FrankG!. I've not been following anything much about these Euro proposals because it's pointless - the EU are not going to get Iran to stop their enrichment process or anything else they want to do.

Everyone in this little farce is trying to ignore the 800 lb gorilla sitting in the corner, the US, and are also resolutely ignoring the Israelis, who have a real interest in what's going on.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-08-07 16:31|| 2005-08-07 16:31|| Front Page Top

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